In message <3d893b52-863f-451e-bb45-0c05ac7fd586[at]b15g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> , trigonometry1972[at]gmail.com wrote:

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You evidently don't know what LEDs contain.

The materials in LEDs start with arsenic and go on to the
really nasty stuff. Mercury is nothing by comparison.

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vernono wrote:
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I drop of several items at our dump. The guys who work thee are
friendly, and give good service.

Quoting from:
http://www.energystar.gov/ia/partner...ssumptions.pdf

Coal-burning power plants are the single largest source
of human-caused mercury emissions in the United States,
contributing more than 40%. Because CFLs [compact
fluorescent lamps] use 75% less energy than the
incandescent bulbs they replace, they help to reduce
mercury emissions (i.e., they represent a net mercury
emissions reduction).

Sources: EPA -- http://www.epa.gov/mercury/about.htm,
Mercury in Fluorescent Lamps: Analysis of Environmental
Impacts and Policies, draft submitted to the U.S.
Environmental Protection Agency ENERGY STAR program,
October 30, 2006

"Mark Probert" <markprobert[at]lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
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Some cities do, some don't. Most people do not go to the dump. City trucks
pick up trash.

trigonometry1972[at]gmail.com wrote:
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Check with your local sanitation department. Our dump has a specific
area for dropping them off, intact.

<trigonometry1972[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
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I have covered waste disposal bins, (one for trash, one for recycle) just
high enough to completely contain a large fluorescent bulb

Of course since the trash can is shorter than the
fluorescent light tubes. I have to release
their contents/break them to get them into the
trash can. So my neighbors and I get to breath traces
of this process.

I did build a tube crasher so the process no longer involves
a large rock aimed at the bottom end of the tubes in
the can.

Sorry. Didn't mean to intrude. This thread is being cross-posted.
I'll go back to my 'ignore' mode.

Good luck,
D

vernono wrote:

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MHA


"Dartos" <tuthjockey[at]myturbonet.com> wrote in message
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If you're talking about smd, it certainly is not the newsgroup as a
whole. Most of the dentists here use amalgam little, if at all, and
rarely respond to the other tripe when it is started.

D

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vernono wrote:
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Good point. The fact is, this information is OLD news.

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To some, mercury is not only dangerous, but possessed by the devil.

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Another good point. When I was in elementary school, I wrote away for a
science project called "Asbestos, the Friendly Mineral".

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vernono wrote:

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Speaking of LEDs...

http://www.wnbc.com/videostream/chri...99/detail.html

The Rockefeller Center Xmas Tree is LED this year.

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"Kevysmom" <bluebunny8[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
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Yes. I was assuming there was at least one or two who had the intelligence
to know it is at least 70 year old information.
I keep expecting some intelligent NEW (less than 20 years old) information.

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Good greif. Have people lived in a cave for their life?
Mercury is dangerous but to read here, one would think it is as dangerous by
weight or volume as Plutonium.

The idiot news in Phoenix went crazy with the news that a student dropped
the mercury from a household thermostat (not thermometer) in a school room.
It wasn't that long ago that practically every student in any high school
class "played" with mercury.
They better tell those thousands of A/C and heater contractors who have
dropped and broken mercury based thermostats in their van or on concrete.
That's just in Phoenix.

Let's see. Causes of Age problems, heart problems, childhood AD or
hyperactivity oriented, mental retardation in children, strokes, cancer.

MANY

Number one cause = EXCESS sugar
I had to capitalize excess for the alarmists.

Oh, yes. There has not been ANY reason to use Mercury in thermostats for at
least 75 years. WEEELLL other than cheap manufacturers.

I have yet to find any competant research or publication show the extreme
ngativity of merury posted in this news group.


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Have you ever been told not to breathe the fumes from a fluorescent
bulb??
Now you know the reason, next time be more careful Verno!


Mercury is more toxic than lead, we all know what happened with
lead...Now its
time for mercury to be exposed?

On Nov 29, 11:44 am, "vernono" <vernono[at]hereandthere> wrote:
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"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Title
"Mercury does not belong in light bulbs."

A little fun with the obvious.
"Don't eat fluorescent light bulbs."

I'm sorry that you were overexposed to mercury and that it has made you
paranoid and that you have difficulty with varied logic, but the rest of the
world will go on with or without you.

"lighten" up.
You really have not made the discovery of the century or even the last few
months.

With ALL of the paranoia about mercury in this news group, I have yet to see
any cogent post except the one regarding the advent of LEDs in the world of
illumination.

The posted pros and cons are nothing but humorous and TOTALLY void of
historic facts.

trigonometry1972[at]gmail.com wrote:

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Um, I happen to have a very close association with the light bulb
business. In a talk to some schoolkids earlier this year I was asked
what was going to replace CFGs and I said something like "LEDs, but
not yet".

The problem at the moment is low output per diode leading to a high
number being required for adequate lighting, poor light direction
control (it's hard to put a reflector in the right place behind a
diode), and price. I see them every day as arrays in traffic lights
and small torches (I have one on my keyring), but the price of
replacements for globes will have to come down by a factor of 10 to
approach even CFGs, let alone incandescent bulbs, before people start
using them in their homes.

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"vernono" <vernono[at]hereandthere> wrote in message
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Oh, do show us just where it said either.

Well? Can't?

People who post hate out of ignorance don't even know
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Btw, it is you who started the argument and personal insults.

No comment, I see.

I post using my real name. You don't.

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either was stated.
Stop making up lies...please.

You're out of date Bowditch. the future is already
starting.

The next step is lighting will LEDs. Cities are already replacing
street lights with LEDs. And when the price drops
everyone will ditch the old tech be it incandescent or fluorescent.

So Jan isn't going to get rich nor is she going to be lending
money to her good buddy Bowditch. And it is a fair
bet the LEDs will be made in red China not Australia
nor on the North American continent.

"vernono" <vernono[at]hereandthere> wrote:

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Perhaps Jan might like to make herself into a billionaire by inventing
a fluorescent tube or CF globe which doesn't use mercury.
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Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
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"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Duuuhhh
Mercury is dominant in Fluorescent light bulbs, whether straight or curly.