metal vs. plastic

#20 01-11-2004, 09:43 AM

How would the dentist that claims that the well functioning amalgam
restoration that DOES NOT need replacing, be unscrupulous?

Joel

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> On 10 Jan 2004 22:07:15 -0800, clintonz[at]prodigy.net (Clinton C Zimmerman) wrote:

> How is it that some dentists are using the amalgam issue for profit. I agree
> that there are always unscrupulous types on both sides of the fence. Are
> you saying by trying to get the patients to pay for new unnecessary fillings ?

--
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#19 01-11-2004, 05:07 AM

"Tony Bad" <SpamSpamSpam[at]bakedbeans.spam> wrote in message news:<YHBLb.107161$Cs3.16963625[at]news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> ...
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> "Linda" <lindaphillipsbong[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:jpBLb.36254$X%5.21433[at]pd7tw2no...
> > Yeah - I agree Tony - that's what I've seen as well.
> > Linda.
>
>
> I got into it pretty good with my brother in laws dentist a while back when he
> said something like this. Brother in law had been going to one dentist for
> years, but his wife and kids were going elsewhere for some reason. The wife and
> kid's dentist said almost the same thing the original poster wrote.I called him
> and asked him to explain the basis for such a recommendation and he really
> couldn't. I then asked him how he could then feel justified in basically saying
> the other dentist was doing something wrong? Once again, no good answer. I told

He probably thought you were an undercover agent for the ADA who was trying
to get his liscence pulled.

- quote -

> him I thought he was a real low life, talking behind someone's back and
> jeopardizing their career and practice when he had no sound basis for doing so.

I hope you didn't use the word "see" a lot, as in "The ADA says amalgam is
safe", "SEE.." !!

- quote -

> I did not get a holiday card from him this year.
>
> I have no problem with how anyone runs their practice, but when you start lying
> about OTHER peoples practices or skills to advance yours...well that is nut
> kicking time in my book!

How is it that some dentists are using the amalgam issue for profit. I agree
that there are always unscrupulous types on both sides of the fence. Are
you saying by trying to get the patients to pay for new unnecessary fillings ?

#18 01-11-2004, 01:10 AM

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> Subject: Re: metal vs. plastic
> From: chuckmsrd[at]aol.com (ChuckMSRD)
> Date: 1/10/2004 12:50 PM Pacific Standard Time
> Message-id: <20040110155040.26304.00002671[at]mb-m15.aol.com>
>
> > Wrong. Alternative/holtistic dentists understand mercury poisoning and have
> > compassion.
> >
>
> I am very grateful for these practitioners - the one who treated me and the
> many who are contacting me to show support.
>
> Chuck

Very true.

Jan

#17 01-10-2004, 09:29 PM

..... what next? Alien autopsy?

On 10 Jan 2004 20:50:40 GMT, chuckmsrd[at]aol.com (ChuckMSRD) wrote:

- quote -

> > Wrong. Alternative/holtistic dentists understand mercury poisoning and have
> > compassion.
> >
>
> I am very grateful for these practitioners - the one who treated me and the
> many who are contacting me to show support.
>
> Chuck

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#16 01-10-2004, 07:50 PM

- quote -

> Wrong. Alternative/holtistic dentists understand mercury poisoning and have
> compassion.
>

I am very grateful for these practitioners - the one who treated me and the
many who are contacting me to show support.

Chuck

#15 01-10-2004, 02:23 AM

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> Subject: Re: metal vs. plastic
> From: "Tony Bad" SpamSpamSpam[at]bakedbeans.spam
> Date: 1/9/2004 4:58 PM Pacific Standard Time
> Message-id: <07ILb.117481$Cs3.18445922[at]news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
>
>
> "Jan" <jdrew63929[at]aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040109172000.03883.00003174[at]mb-m07.aol.com...
> >
> > That's because you are a mainstream dentist in denial.
> >
> > Jan
>
> And what the excuse for your answer?

I don't need an excuse, I happen to know from experience.

- quote -

> An unknowing moron who shoots her mouth
> off when her brain is unloaded?
>
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooo

Temper, Temper.

- quote -

> Get out of your little world once in the while Jan, and you will find there
> are many who couldn't give two shits about you or anyone else's mercury
burden.

Yes I see it here, most of all.

Mainstream dentists are short on compassion.

- quote -

> are just passing along such advice for financial gain.

That lie is another excuse used by mainstream dentists.

- quote -

> What you'll also find is
> very few of these folks would pass your "proper protocol white glove test"

Wrong. Alternative/holtistic dentists understand mercury poisoning and have
compassion.

They are brave enought to step out of the norm, rather than remain in the
comforts of the *accepted*, taking the easy way, making no waves.

- quote -

> Just
> because it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, its crap still may
> stink.
> In other words, despite being anti-amalgam, they may be "mainstream dentists"
> instead of the "backwater dentist" you seem to prefer

You are getting carried away.

- quote -

> All the hats ain't black
> and white...many are gray!
>
> T

Thanks for showing us an example of a mainstream dentists who prefers to remain
in denial.

Jan

#14 01-10-2004, 02:11 AM

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> Subject: Re: metal vs. plastic
> From: "carabelli" huerter[at]worldnet.att.net
> Date: 1/9/2004 2:22 PM Pacific Standard Time
> Message-id: <_QFLb.16433$Ub6.400526[at]bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
>
>
> "Jan" <jdrew63929[at]aol.com> ...............
>
> > That's because you are a mainstream dentist in denial.
> >
> > Jan

Selective snipping is impolite.

Jan

#13 01-09-2004, 11:58 PM

"Jan" <jdrew63929[at]aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040109172000.03883.00003174[at]mb-m07.aol.com...
- quote -

>
> That's because you are a mainstream dentist in denial.
>
> Jan

And what the excuse for your answer? An unknowing moron who shoots her mouth
off when her brain is unloaded?

Get out of your little world once in the while Jan, and you will find there are
many who couldn't give two shits about you or anyone else's mercury burden and
are just passing along such advice for financial gain. What you'll also find is
very few of these folks would pass your "proper protocol white glove test". Just
because it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, its crap still may stink.
In other words, despite being anti-amalgam, they may be "mainstream dentists"
instead of the "backwater dentist" you seem to prefer. All the hats ain't black
and white...many are gray!

T

#12 01-09-2004, 10:18 PM

Good one! Its a first isn't it? JanSpeak without URLs.

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 22:22:50 GMT, "carabelli"
<huerter[at]worldnet.att.net> wrote:

- quote -

>
> "Jan" <jdrew63929[at]aol.com> ...............
>
> > That's because you are a mainstream dentist in denial.
> >
> > Jan
>
> I won't even consider that statement until you have posted some URLs.
>
> carabelli
>

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#11 01-09-2004, 10:18 PM

in de-NILE.

On 09 Jan 2004 22:20:00 GMT, jdrew63929[at]aol.com (Jan) wrote:

- quote -

> > Subject: Re: metal vs. plastic
> > From: "Tony Bad" SpamSpamSpam[at]bakedbeans.spam
> > Date: 1/9/2004 7:05 AM Pacific Standard Time
> > Message-id: <NqzLb.104644$Cs3.16498513[at]news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
> >
> >
> > "ChuckMSRD" <chuckmsrd[at]aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20040109082604.13711.00002374[at]mb-m10.aol.com...
> > > > i went to a new dentist today
> > >
> > > > advice? are the metal ones really that toxic?
> > >
> > > For whats its worth, my neighbor DDS said to me recently (she has no clue
> > of
> > my
> > > history of Hg toxicity) that if your dentist is still placing amalgam it is
> > > time to find a new dentist.
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > > http://www.sierratimes.com/03/09/02/health.htm
> > >
> >
> > I'd ask him to back up that comment. My experience has shown such comments
> > are
> > usually profit motivated rather than health motivated.
> >
> > T
>
> That's because you are a mainstream dentist in denial.
>
> Jan

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Philadelphia PA

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#10 01-09-2004, 09:22 PM

"Jan" <jdrew63929[at]aol.com> ...............

- quote -

> That's because you are a mainstream dentist in denial.
>
> Jan

I won't even consider that statement until you have posted some URLs.

carabelli

#9 01-09-2004, 09:20 PM

- quote -

> Subject: Re: metal vs. plastic
> From: "Tony Bad" SpamSpamSpam[at]bakedbeans.spam
> Date: 1/9/2004 7:05 AM Pacific Standard Time
> Message-id: <NqzLb.104644$Cs3.16498513[at]news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
>
>
> "ChuckMSRD" <chuckmsrd[at]aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040109082604.13711.00002374[at]mb-m10.aol.com...
> > > i went to a new dentist today
> >
> > > advice? are the metal ones really that toxic?
> >
> > For whats its worth, my neighbor DDS said to me recently (she has no clue
> of
> my
> > history of Hg toxicity) that if your dentist is still placing amalgam it is
> > time to find a new dentist.
> >
> > Chuck
> > http://www.sierratimes.com/03/09/02/health.htm
> >
>
> I'd ask him to back up that comment. My experience has shown such comments
> are
> usually profit motivated rather than health motivated.
>
> T

That's because you are a mainstream dentist in denial.

Jan

#8 01-09-2004, 04:40 PM

"Linda" <lindaphillipsbong[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jpBLb.36254$X%5.21433[at]pd7tw2no...
- quote -

> Yeah - I agree Tony - that's what I've seen as well.
> Linda.

I got into it pretty good with my brother in laws dentist a while back when he
said something like this. Brother in law had been going to one dentist for
years, but his wife and kids were going elsewhere for some reason. The wife and
kid's dentist said almost the same thing the original poster wrote.I called him
and asked him to explain the basis for such a recommendation and he really
couldn't. I then asked him how he could then feel justified in basically saying
the other dentist was doing something wrong? Once again, no good answer. I told
him I thought he was a real low life, talking behind someone's back and
jeopardizing their career and practice when he had no sound basis for doing so.
I did not get a holiday card from him this year.

I have no problem with how anyone runs their practice, but when you start lying
about OTHER peoples practices or skills to advance yours...well that is nut
kicking time in my book!

T

#7 01-09-2004, 04:20 PM

Yeah - I agree Tony - that's what I've seen as well.
Linda.

"Tony Bad" <SpamSpamSpam[at]bakedbeans.spam> wrote in message
news:NqzLb.104644$Cs3.16498513[at]news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
- quote -

>
> "ChuckMSRD" <chuckmsrd[at]aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040109082604.13711.00002374[at]mb-m10.aol.com...
> > > i went to a new dentist today
> >
> > > advice? are the metal ones really that toxic?
> >
> > For whats its worth, my neighbor DDS said to me recently (she has no
clue of
> my
> > history of Hg toxicity) that if your dentist is still placing amalgam it
is
> > time to find a new dentist.
> >
> > Chuck
> > http://www.sierratimes.com/03/09/02/health.htm
> >
>
> I'd ask him to back up that comment. My experience has shown such comments
are
> usually profit motivated rather than health motivated.
>
> T
>
>

#6 01-09-2004, 02:05 PM

"ChuckMSRD" <chuckmsrd[at]aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040109082604.13711.00002374[at]mb-m10.aol.com...
- quote -

> > i went to a new dentist today
>
> > advice? are the metal ones really that toxic?
>
> For whats its worth, my neighbor DDS said to me recently (she has no clue of
my
> history of Hg toxicity) that if your dentist is still placing amalgam it is
> time to find a new dentist.
>
> Chuck
> http://www.sierratimes.com/03/09/02/health.htm
>

I'd ask him to back up that comment. My experience has shown such comments are
usually profit motivated rather than health motivated.

T

#5 01-09-2004, 12:26 PM

- quote -

> i went to a new dentist today

> advice? are the metal ones really that toxic?

For whats its worth, my neighbor DDS said to me recently (she has no clue of my
history of Hg toxicity) that if your dentist is still placing amalgam it is
time to find a new dentist.

Chuck
http://www.sierratimes.com/03/09/02/health.htm

#4 01-08-2004, 11:33 PM

On 09 Jan 2004 00:10:43 GMT, jdrew63929[at]aol.com (Jan) wrote:

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> convince j...e.... to get help
> ~~~~``````````#####----

j...a...n. get some help...> ~~~~``````````#####----

#3 01-08-2004, 11:25 PM

JAN!!!!!! Did you take a laptop computer on your cruise???

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> On 09 Jan 2004 00:10:43 GMT, jdrew63929[at]aol.com (Jan) wrote:

> > Subject: metal vs. plastic
> > From: moira_henry[at]hotmail.com (moira)
> > Date: 1/8/2004 3:14 PM Pacific Standard Time
> > Message-id: <4fa09066.0401081514.14bdbac8[at]posting.google.com>
> >
> > i went to a new dentist today... and he said that i should get the
> > metal fillings... he said that he doesn't like the plastic ones and
> > doesn't understand why i should want them. i have the plastic ones
> > now, but they seem to just be crumbling.... should i follow his
> > advice? are the metal ones really that toxic?
> >
> > moira
>
> convince j...e.... to get help
> ~~~~``````````#####----

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#2 01-08-2004, 11:21 PM

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 00:00:43 GMT, WB <no_one[at]nowhere.net> wrote:

- quote -

> On 8 Jan 2004 15:14:02 -0800, moira_henry[at]hotmail.com (moira) wrote:
>
> > i went to a new dentist today... and he said that i should get the
> > metal fillings... he said that he doesn't like the plastic ones and
> > doesn't understand why i should want them. i have the plastic ones
> > now, but they seem to just be crumbling.... should i follow his
> > advice? are the metal ones really that toxic?
> >
> > moira
>
> no, no.

Thanks for answering ......... By the way, Jan left word ,,,,,,,,,,,,
you can answer for her too!

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#1 01-08-2004, 11:10 PM

- quote -

> Subject: metal vs. plastic
> From: moira_henry[at]hotmail.com (moira)
> Date: 1/8/2004 3:14 PM Pacific Standard Time
> Message-id: <4fa09066.0401081514.14bdbac8[at]posting.google.com>
>
> i went to a new dentist today... and he said that i should get the
> metal fillings... he said that he doesn't like the plastic ones and
> doesn't understand why i should want them. i have the plastic ones
> now, but they seem to just be crumbling.... should i follow his
> advice? are the metal ones really that toxic?
>
> moira

convince j...e.... to get help
~~~~``````````#####----

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