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| On 8 Feb, 22:33, Steven Bornfeld <dentaltwinm...[at]earthlink.net> wrote: - quote - >
Ok ipse dixit, I believe you!> * * * * I'm sure if you checked it you're correct--that I haven'tasserted that > in this ng since 2005--hence, I suppose, that I no longer assert that! > * * * * Thanks for the clarification! *;-) > > Ipse dixit! > > S. This stuff really belongs in "The Difference Between an Alloy and an Amalgam" anyway. I suggest that Peter Bowditch should go and read it. And Jan should carry on calling mercury amalgams "mercury amalgams". Back to the topic of this thread - the ban on all uses of mercury which is to be imposed in Sweden will mean that mercury amalgams will no longer be used by dentists in Sweden at all. I would suggest that under these circumstances, Sweden will be placing itself in a unique position to help answer some important questions regarding the possible effects which amalgam fillings may have been having on people's health, questions which have been the focus of argument for some time. Ever since mercury-based dental amalgams were first used in the early 19th century there has existed controversy over whether or not the presence of such fillings in the mouth is detrimental to patients' health and/or well-being. Indeed, it has been argued that the widespread adoption of amalgams for use in restorative dentistry was quickly followed by the rise to prominence of psychiatric "medicine" in our societies, and that these two facts might not be unrelated. By imposing a sudden end to the use of mercury dental fillings, it should be possible for the Swedish government to monitor any resulting changes in the general health of its population at large. To this purpose, I would urge the government of Sweden to put in place adequate monitoring procedures so that, following a suitable interval of time after the mercury ban takes effect, they may be able to derive answers to the following types of questions: 1) In general, are our citizens happier and more contented? 2) Has there been any reduction in our suicide rate? 3) Has there been any reduction in the diagnosis of cases of clinical depression? 4) Has there been any reduction in the diagnosis of cases of tinnitus (ringing in the ears)? 5) Has there been any reduction in the diagnosis of cases of chronic headache? 6) Has there been any decline in the type of behaviour sometimes referred to as "teenage angst"? 7) Have discipline and/or achievement in schools improved? 8) Have there been any reductions in crime rates? 9) Has there been any reduction in the rate of alcoholism? 10) Are our dental surgeons happier in their work? Other factors notwithstanding, only then might it be possible to offer some judgement as to how significant a detrimental effect the use of amalgam dental fillings has been having on the people of Sweden until now. Would you agree? Best regards, Keith P Walsh PS, As a result of my own enquiries and personal experiences I have come to believe that the electrical potentials generated by metal amalgam dental fillings are able to dissipate electrical energy through the nerves in people's heads and, in so doing, make people feel unhappy. And in extreme though not unusual cases they are also able to cause permanent neurological injury which cannot be repaired simply by the removal of the fillings. As far as I (or anyone else for that matter) know, the electrical behavior of gallium amalgams should be similar to that of mercury amalgams. I hope that the people of Sweden (or anywhere else) would have the good sense to check this first before assuming that gallium amalgams would be "safe" for use as dental fillings simply because they don't have any mercury in them. |
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| Keith P Walsh wrote: - quote - > On 7 Feb, 15:10, Mark & Steven Bornfeld <bornfeldm...[at]dentaltwins.com> > wrote: > > > > Even Steven Bornfield no longer bothers to assert that the term > > > "mercury amalgam" is a pleonasm. > > If you inferred that from something I have said, it was inferred > > erroneously. > > And even if I DID assert that, I ain't no Aristotle here. > > > > Carry on, Keith! > > > > Steve > > > > Don't worry Aristotle, I'll carry on all right. 'Cos I got you by the > balls! I'm sure if you checked it you're correct--that I haven't asserted that in this ng since 2005--hence, I suppose, that I no longer assert that! Thanks for the clarification! ;-) Ipse dixit! S. |
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| On 7 Feb, 15:10, Mark & Steven Bornfeld <bornfeldm...[at]dentaltwins.com> wrote: - quote - >
Don't worry Aristotle, I'll carry on all right. 'Cos I got you by the> > Even Steven Bornfield no longer bothers to assert that the term > > "mercury amalgam" is a pleonasm. > > * * * * If you inferred that from something I have said, it was inferred > erroneously. > * * * * And even if I DID assert that, I ain't no Aristotle here. > > Carry on, Keith! > > Steve > balls! Usenet newsgroup sci.med.dentistry; thread: "Mercury Amalgams"; 18 June 2005 - here's what you wrote: - quote - > >
Now, try as I might, I don't think there's any way I can ERRONEOUSLY> > Mercury amalgam is a pleonasm, Keith. You do know what a pleonasm is, > > dontcha Keith? It's like saying AC current. > > > > Steve > > infer from this that you had asserted that the term "mercury amalgam" is a pleonasm. I think you done asserted it boy! So, if someone means "mercury amalgam", but only says "amalgam", how am I going to know that they don't mean "gallium amalgam" (which doesn't have any mercury in it), or "indium amalgam (which doesn't have any mercury in it either)? I suspect that you can see now that the term "mercury amalgam" is NOT a pleonasm. And I think that you may have simply blotted out the memory of the ridiculously sarcastic way in which you asserted the opposite back in '05, perhaps in some sort of subconscious attempt to maintain a delusion that you always know what you are talking about. Keith P Walsh PS, By the way, gallium amalgams and indium amalgams are no more "alloys" than mercury amalgams are. They are at best inhomogeneous mixtures of more than one alloy, and they are more accurately described as "inhomogeneous mixtures of dissimilar mixtures of metals" - and you might expect their electrical behaviors to correspond accordingly (don't forget about the thermoelectric eddy currents generated by inhomogeneous materials). PPS, In the event that it was someone else who logged onto your computer and submitted that 2005 message on your behalf, and without your permission, then I apologise for the incriminatory tone of the above. (In fact it might be your best bet to claim that's what happened.) PPPS, I've just noticed that I've been spelling your name incorrectly (I'm referring to Bornfeld here, not Aristotle). Apologies for that. |
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| Keith P Walsh wrote: - quote - > On 7 Feb, 09:05, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn...[at]ratbags.com> wrote: > > > Please apply the "banish tautology" patch to the JanBot software. The > > ludicrosity of the ridiculous expression "mercury amalgam" has been > > pointed out many times. > > > > The term "mercury amalgam" properly distinguishes the material in > question from, for example, a "gallium amalgam" or an "indium > amalgam". > > Material scientists understand this distinction. > > However, it is clear that in the past many dentists and large sections > of the general public have been misled (or have misled themselves) > into believing incorrectly that the use of term "mercury amalgam" is > erroneous. > > It isn't. (see Explanation below) > > Even Steven Bornfield no longer bothers to assert that the term > "mercury amalgam" is a pleonasm. If you inferred that from something I have said, it was inferred erroneously. And even if I DID assert that, I ain't no Aristotle here. Carry on, Keith! Steve - quote - > > So wise up Peter Bowditch - it isn't Jan who's being ludicrous. > > It's you. > > Keith P Walsh > > Explanation: > > It is a common misconception that by definition an amalgam must have > mercury init. > > That "an amalgam" has come to imply mercury, particularly in the > dental profession, is simply because mercury amalgams are the most > common. > > But mercury amalgams are NOT the only types of amalgams, as you can > see by extracts from the book, "Principles of Soldering", by Giles > Humpston and David M Jacobson, published by ASM International (April > 2004) and endorsed by The Materials Information Society. > > The parts which are of interest to us are: > > Page 115 - Section 5.4.1 - Amalgams Based on Mercury > > Page 116 - Section 5.4.2 - Amalgams Based on Gallium > > "Gallium melts at 29 deg C and is therefore a potential base for > formulating very low-process-temperature amalgams without the toxic > hazard associated with mercury" > > (Note, there's no mercury in these amalgams.) > > Page 117 - Section 5.4.3 - Amalgams Based on Indium > > "Indium is another liquid metal that can be considered as a base for > amalgam systems. " > > (There's no mercury in these amalgams either.) > > You can find details of this book at: > > http://books.google.com/books?id=cQ6...dq=%22gallium+... > > When I first quoted these pages (see message in thread "Lessons on > Alloys, Amalgams, and Pleonasms (2)" of 1 September 2007) > they were available for reading at the above URL. > > Unfortunately it looks like since then they've been made unavailable! > (I tell ya, if I were a conspiracy theorist ... ). > > Anyway the quotes are genuine. > > So there are at least three types of amalgam known to materials > science; gallium amalgams, indium amalgams, and mercury amalgams. > > Think on it. -- Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 |
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| On 7 Feb, 09:05, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn...[at]ratbags.com> wrote: - quote - >
The term "mercury amalgam" properly distinguishes the material in> Please apply the "banish tautology" patch to the JanBot software. The > ludicrosity of the ridiculous expression "mercury amalgam" has been > pointed out many times. > question from, for example, a "gallium amalgam" or an "indium amalgam". Material scientists understand this distinction. However, it is clear that in the past many dentists and large sections of the general public have been misled (or have misled themselves) into believing incorrectly that the use of term "mercury amalgam" is erroneous. It isn't. (see Explanation below) Even Steven Bornfield no longer bothers to assert that the term "mercury amalgam" is a pleonasm. So wise up Peter Bowditch - it isn't Jan who's being ludicrous. It's you. Keith P Walsh Explanation: It is a common misconception that by definition an amalgam must have mercury init. That "an amalgam" has come to imply mercury, particularly in the dental profession, is simply because mercury amalgams are the most common. But mercury amalgams are NOT the only types of amalgams, as you can see by extracts from the book, "Principles of Soldering", by Giles Humpston and David M Jacobson, published by ASM International (April 2004) and endorsed by The Materials Information Society. The parts which are of interest to us are: Page 115 - Section 5.4.1 - Amalgams Based on Mercury Page 116 - Section 5.4.2 - Amalgams Based on Gallium "Gallium melts at 29 deg C and is therefore a potential base for formulating very low-process-temperature amalgams without the toxic hazard associated with mercury" (Note, there's no mercury in these amalgams.) Page 117 - Section 5.4.3 - Amalgams Based on Indium "Indium is another liquid metal that can be considered as a base for amalgam systems. " (There's no mercury in these amalgams either.) You can find details of this book at: http://books.google.com/books?id=cQ6...dq=%22gallium+... When I first quoted these pages (see message in thread "Lessons on Alloys, Amalgams, and Pleonasms (2)" of 1 September 2007) they were available for reading at the above URL. Unfortunately it looks like since then they've been made unavailable! (I tell ya, if I were a conspiracy theorist ... ). Anyway the quotes are genuine. So there are at least three types of amalgam known to materials science; gallium amalgams, indium amalgams, and mercury amalgams. Think on it. |
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| "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: - quote - > Mercury-amalgam
Please apply the "banish tautology" patch to the JanBot software. Theludicrosity of the ridiculous expression "mercury amalgam" has been pointed out many times. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
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| "kris-polanowski" <hsm.a.polanowska[at]neostrada.pl> wrote in message news:a2a830cf-8554-4da8-b4db-66a10d27e5fc[at]e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com... On Jan 30, 1:56 am, Mike <M...[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: - quote - > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > Mike <m...[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > > Mike <m...[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > > > > It is not my job to determine what products should or should not be > > > > > granted an exemption. But I have a hunch about what product you would > > > > > like to see exempt: thimerosal. > > > > What would it be used for? It isn't needed or used in vaccines any > > > > more > > > Not true. > > > > You did not do your homework again, and again, I did it for you. This > > > is > > > the situation for the U.S. (but might be different in Sweden): > > > > "Today, all routinely recommended licensed pediatric vaccines that are > > > currently being manufactured for the U.S. market, with the exception of > > > influenza vaccine, contain no thimerosal or only trace amounts. > > > Thimerosal preservative-free influenza vaccines are available, but in > > > limited quantities. The total amount of inactivated influenza vaccine > > > available without thimerosal as a preservative will continue to > > > increase > > > as manufacturing capabilities are expanded." > > > > http://www.cdc.gov/FLU/ABOUT/QA/thimerosal.htm > > > > So, it is used, and according to CDC it is still needed. > > > And the last flu vaccine I had had no mercury in it. I didn't ask - it > > was the standard issue. > > Maybe, in Australia. Maybe in Sweden too (quite likely, given this ban). > As for the US (which is not the topic here, but anyway) even childhood > flu vaccines contain thimerosal. > > > So what is it still needed for? And where in the CDC saying that > > mercury-free vaccines are available does it mean that it is still > > needed? > > It says mercury-free is available *in limited quantities*, did you get it? > > > > > Please try to keep up. > > I cannot keep up with Australia which is also not the topic. > > > > > > > > , so unless there is another use for this fine antiseptic I don't > > > > know why you think I would have any interest in it.- Hide quoted > > > > text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Amalgams is not bad. Is? That should be *are*. However the equal materials and not toxic are avaiable like Diamond lite polyceram.. The insurances in Europe based on "turn over" the time for patient is 5-10 minutes. There is in england , nederlands perhaps in Sweden )Take into consideratiuon so anaesthsia works after couple minutes )Perhaps main reason in Sweden was time. It takes less time for glasionomers like for amalgams regards kris Polanowski DDS www.stomapol.pl Amagams are very bad. Mercury-amalgam dental fillings have never been subjected to the kind of regulatory scrutiny and approval process demanded of all modern drugs and medical devices to prove safety. Until this day dentistry has used marketing, political influence, and control of regulatory boards at all levels to impose its self-serving economic view that mercury-amalgam is completely safe. The science that proves safety is still not forthcoming from the ADA, nor from dental schools, nor from mercury-amalgam manufacturers. Science has not been the driving force behind the ADA's public information on mercury release. When asked about the safety of mercury amalgam the response one always heard previously, and can still hear today in many dental offices is: "once set, the mercury becomes completely stable and locked up, it doesn't leak out". After it was unequivocally demonstrated that mercury vapor continuously escapes from mercury-amalgam fillings the ADA repositioned itself and now claims: "the small amount of mercury released from amalgam restorations, especially during placement and removal, has not been shown to cause any adverse health effects." Mercury escapes from amalgam and is taken up by the human as metallic vapor, metallic vapor and ionic mercury dissolved in saliva, and as unknown mercury species directly through the tooth pulp and root into the bloodstream.[3] Ionic mercury in saliva is converted to methylmercury.[4] Mercury travels from amalgam fillings into the jaw, gut, liver, kidneys, glands and brain, crosses the placenta to the fetus, and is found in mother's milk.[18] [19] [20] [21] [22] WARNING TO PARENTS: "SILVER" FILLINGS ARE REALLY 50% MERCURY! THE AMERICAN DENTAL ASSOCIATION SAYS THEY ARE SAFE! CONCERNED PARENTS SHOULD KNOW: MERCURY has been eliminated from all other uses in the human body, including vaccines, disinfectants, and other oral uses. All other health care associations support full disclosure, while the American Dental Association hides its use of MERCURY. The ADA receives money from MERCURY amalgam manufacturers through its Seal of Acceptance program, in contrast with the American Medical Association, which rejected taking fees for product endorsements. The ADA holds patents on amalgam (since expired), furthering its business interests by the continued use of MERCURY in dentistry. The ADA endorses pre-Civil War medicine, saying amalgam is justified because its use began in 1850! The ADA says MERCURY dental fillings are safe to use in children's teeth. In 1997, MERCURY amalgam filling manufacturer Dentsply stated that MERCURY amalgam fillings are "contraindicated" (meaning DO NOT USE) for children and pregnant women. The American Dental Association is still calling MERCURY amalgam fillings "silver" and denies MERCURY fillings can ever be dangerous! Federal and most state medical insurance programs only pay for MERCURY fillings because they are the least expensive, so poor people and poor children are especially at risk. U.S. Public Health Service: The largest component of amalgam is MERCURY. ADA: Amalgam is "silver" fillings. U.S. Public Health Service: For most people, the leading cause of MERCURY toxicity is amalgam fillings, not fish. ADA: You only get traces of MERCURY vapor in your body. U S Public Health Service: MERCURY is a dangerous neuro-toxin; the MERCURY in amalgam goes to the brain, and to a fetus through the placenta. ADA: MERCURY exposure is like having an "allergy" to dust or pollen! American Medical Association: Don't take $$$ for endorsements. ADA: Receives fees from MERCURY amalgam manufacturers while calling amalgam "safe". For further information on this issue and links to recent press coverage of the controversy with the ADA and the dangers of Mercury in dentistry, please read the August 22 Page 1 article in the Chicago Tribune: http://chicagotribune.com/news/local...i%2Dnews%2Dhed and visit: www.toxicteeth.net |
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| kris-polanowski wrote: - quote - > On Jan 30, 1:56 am, Mike <M...[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
Hey Kris--> > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > Mike <m...[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > > > Mike <m...[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > > > > > It is not my job to determine what products should or should not be > > > > > > granted an exemption. But I have a hunch about what product you would > > > > > > like to see exempt: thimerosal. > > > > > What would it be used for? It isn't needed or used in vaccines any > > > > > more > > > > Not true. > > > > You did not do your homework again, and again, I did it for you. This is > > > > the situation for the U.S. (but might be different in Sweden): > > > > "Today, all routinely recommended licensed pediatric vaccines that are > > > > currently being manufactured for the U.S. market, with the exception of > > > > influenza vaccine, contain no thimerosal or only trace amounts. > > > > Thimerosal preservative-free influenza vaccines are available, but in > > > > limited quantities. The total amount of inactivated influenza vaccine > > > > available without thimerosal as a preservative will continue to increase > > > > as manufacturing capabilities are expanded." > > > > http://www.cdc.gov/FLU/ABOUT/QA/thimerosal.htm > > > > So, it is used, and according to CDC it is still needed. > > > And the last flu vaccine I had had no mercury in it. I didn't ask - it > > > was the standard issue. > > Maybe, in Australia. Maybe in Sweden too (quite likely, given this ban). > > As for the US (which is not the topic here, but anyway) even childhood > > flu vaccines contain thimerosal. > > > > > So what is it still needed for? And where in the CDC saying that > > > mercury-free vaccines are available does it mean that it is still > > > needed? > > It says mercury-free is available *in limited quantities*, did you get it? > > > > > > > > > Please try to keep up. > > I cannot keep up with Australia which is also not the topic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , so unless there is another use for this fine antiseptic I don't > > > > > know why you think I would have any interest in it.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Amalgams is not bad. However the equal materials and not toxic are > avaiable like Diamond lite polyceram.. I am not aware of any material being marketed in the states as Diamond lite polyceram--it appears to be a hybrid BIS-gma resin? Steve - quote - > The insurances in Europe based on "turn over" the time for patient is > 5-10 minutes. There is in england , nederlands perhaps in Sweden )> Take into consideratiuon so anaesthsia works after couple minutes )> Perhaps main reason in Sweden was time. It takes less time for > glasionomers like for amalgams > > regards kris Polanowski DDS > www.stomapol.pl |
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| On Jan 30, 1:56*am, Mike <M...[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: - quote - > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > Mike <m...[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > > Mike <m...[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > > > > It is not my job to determine what products should or should not be > > > > > granted an exemption. But I have a hunch about what product you would > > > > > like to see exempt: thimerosal. > > > > What would it be used for? It isn't needed or used in vaccines any > > > > more > > > Not true. > > > > You did not do your homework again, and again, I did it for you. This is > > > the situation for the U.S. (but might be different in Sweden): > > > > "Today, all routinely recommended licensed pediatric vaccines that are > > > currently being manufactured for the U.S. market, with the exception of > > > influenza vaccine, contain no thimerosal or only trace amounts. > > > Thimerosal preservative-free influenza vaccines are available, but in > > > limited quantities. The total amount of inactivated influenza vaccine > > > available without thimerosal as a preservative will continue to increase > > > as manufacturing capabilities are expanded." > > > > http://www.cdc.gov/FLU/ABOUT/QA/thimerosal.htm > > > > So, it is used, and according to CDC it is still needed. > > > And the last flu vaccine I had had no mercury in it. I didn't ask - it > > was the standard issue. > > Maybe, in Australia. Maybe in Sweden too (quite likely, given this ban). > As for the US (which is not the topic here, but anyway) even childhood > flu vaccines contain thimerosal. > > > So what is it still needed for? And where in the CDC saying that > > mercury-free vaccines are available does it mean that it is still > > needed? > > It says mercury-free is available *in limited quantities*, did you get it? > > > > > Please try to keep up. > > I cannot keep up with Australia which is also not the topic. > > > > > > > > , so unless there is another use for this fine antiseptic I don't > > > > know why you think I would have any interest in it.- Hide quoted text- > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Amalgams is not bad. However the equal materials and not toxic are avaiable like Diamond lite polyceram.. The insurances in Europe based on "turn over" the time for patient is 5-10 minutes. There is in england , nederlands perhaps in Sweden )Take into consideratiuon so anaesthsia works after couple minutes )Perhaps main reason in Sweden was time. It takes less time for glasionomers like for amalgams regards kris Polanowski DDS www.stomapol.pl |
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| "Keith P Walsh" <keith.p.walsh[at]btinternet.com> wrote in message news:41846405-4d0c-4e6b-b798-303fc2370c1f[at]r36g2000prf.googlegroups.com... - quote - > On 20 Jan, 23:29, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:
You are most welcome. No apology necessary.> > > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 > > > > Subject: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 A press release from > > the > > Swedish Ministry of Environment follows. > > > > http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/11459/a/118550 > > > > Press release 15 January 2009 Ministry of the Environment > > > > Jan, > > I refer to the Swedish government press release, "Government bans all > use of mercury in Sweden", see: > > http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/11459/a/118550 > > Thank you for bringing this announcement to the attention of the > group. (May I also offer my apologies for not having noticed it > earlier.) - quote - > > It is clear that the announced ban applies to all uses of mercury in > Sweden, and also that the official reason for this ban is the Swedish > government's concern for the environment in general. > > However, one obvious and inevitable consequence of such a ban is that > amalgam dental fillings containing mercury will no longer be placed in > patients' teeth by dentists practising in Sweden. > > I would like to suggest that under these circumstances, Sweden will be > placing itself in a unique position to help answer some important > questions regarding the possible effects which amalgam fillings may > have upon people's health, questions which have been the focus of > argument for some time. > > Ever since mercury-based dental amalgams were first used in the early > 19th century there has existed controversy over whether or not the > presence of such fillings in the mouth is detrimental to patients' > health and/or well-being. > > Indeed, it has been argued that the widespread adoption of amalgams > for use in restorative dentistry was quickly followed by the rise to > prominence of psychiatric "medicine" in our societies, and that these > two facts may not be unrelated. > > By imposing a sudden end to the use of mercury dental fillings, it > should be possible for the Swedish government to monitor any resulting > changes in the general health of its population at large. > > To this purpose, I would urge the government of Sweden to put in place > adequate monitoring procedures so that, following a suitable interval > of time after the mercury ban takes effect, they may be able to derive > answers to the following types of questions: > > 1) In general, are our citizens happier and more contented? > 2) Has there been any reduction in our suicide rate? > 3) Has there been any reduction in the diagnosis of cases of clinical > depression? > 4) Has there been any reduction in the diagnosis of cases of tinnitus > (ringing in the ears)? > 5) Has there been any reduction in the diagnosis of cases of chronic > headache? > 6) Has there been any decline in the type of behaviour sometimes > referred to as "teenage angst"? > 7) Have discipline and/or achievement in schools improved? > 8) Have there been any reductions in crime rates? > 9) Has there been any reduction in the rate of alcoholism? > 10) Are our dental surgeons happier in their work? > > Other factors notwithstanding, only then might it be possible to offer > some judgement as to how significant a detrimental effect the use of > amalgam dental fillings has been having on the people of Sweden until > now. > > Best regards, > > Keith P Walsh > > PS, In 1992 I wrote a series of letters enquiring about the electrical > behaviour of metal amalgam dental fillings. You can find them at: > > http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/intro.htm > > As a result of the response to these letters, and of my own personal > experiences both before and after they were written, I have come to > believe that the electrical potentials generated by metal amalgam > dental fillings are able to dissipate electrical energy through the > nerves in people's heads and, in so doing, make them unhappy. > > And in extreme though not unusual cases they are also able to cause > permanent neurological injury which cannot be repaired simply by the > removal of the fillings. > > For a more detailed indication of the reasoning behind these beliefs > visit: > > http://www.its.org/node/5540 > > > > |
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| On 20 Jan, 23:29, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: - quote - > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009
Jan,> > Subject: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 A press release from the > Swedish Ministry of Environment follows. > > http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/11459/a/118550 > > Press release 15 January 2009 Ministry of the Environment > I refer to the Swedish government press release, "Government bans all use of mercury in Sweden", see: http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/11459/a/118550 Thank you for bringing this announcement to the attention of the group. (May I also offer my apologies for not having noticed it earlier.) It is clear that the announced ban applies to all uses of mercury in Sweden, and also that the official reason for this ban is the Swedish government's concern for the environment in general. However, one obvious and inevitable consequence of such a ban is that amalgam dental fillings containing mercury will no longer be placed in patients' teeth by dentists practising in Sweden. I would like to suggest that under these circumstances, Sweden will be placing itself in a unique position to help answer some important questions regarding the possible effects which amalgam fillings may have upon people's health, questions which have been the focus of argument for some time. Ever since mercury-based dental amalgams were first used in the early 19th century there has existed controversy over whether or not the presence of such fillings in the mouth is detrimental to patients' health and/or well-being. Indeed, it has been argued that the widespread adoption of amalgams for use in restorative dentistry was quickly followed by the rise to prominence of psychiatric "medicine" in our societies, and that these two facts may not be unrelated. By imposing a sudden end to the use of mercury dental fillings, it should be possible for the Swedish government to monitor any resulting changes in the general health of its population at large. To this purpose, I would urge the government of Sweden to put in place adequate monitoring procedures so that, following a suitable interval of time after the mercury ban takes effect, they may be able to derive answers to the following types of questions: 1) In general, are our citizens happier and more contented? 2) Has there been any reduction in our suicide rate? 3) Has there been any reduction in the diagnosis of cases of clinical depression? 4) Has there been any reduction in the diagnosis of cases of tinnitus (ringing in the ears)? 5) Has there been any reduction in the diagnosis of cases of chronic headache? 6) Has there been any decline in the type of behaviour sometimes referred to as "teenage angst"? 7) Have discipline and/or achievement in schools improved? 8) Have there been any reductions in crime rates? 9) Has there been any reduction in the rate of alcoholism? 10) Are our dental surgeons happier in their work? Other factors notwithstanding, only then might it be possible to offer some judgement as to how significant a detrimental effect the use of amalgam dental fillings has been having on the people of Sweden until now. Best regards, Keith P Walsh PS, In 1992 I wrote a series of letters enquiring about the electrical behaviour of metal amalgam dental fillings. You can find them at: http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/intro.htm As a result of the response to these letters, and of my own personal experiences both before and after they were written, I have come to believe that the electrical potentials generated by metal amalgam dental fillings are able to dissipate electrical energy through the nerves in people's heads and, in so doing, make them unhappy. And in extreme though not unusual cases they are also able to cause permanent neurological injury which cannot be repaired simply by the removal of the fillings. For a more detailed indication of the reasoning behind these beliefs visit: http://www.its.org/node/5540 |
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| I bet its his even more evil twin brother! )On Jan 24, 10:04*pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: - quote - > "Peter Bowditch" <myfirstn...[at]ratbags.com> wrote: > > * > "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > > > BTW, someone should let Quack Barrett know of the news. > > > I have no idea who this is, so perhaps you should tell the person > > yourself. > > I have and once again you are lying. *You very well know who it is. > > > > > > > -- > > Peter Bowditch- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - |
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| Peter Bowditch wrote: - quote - > Mike <mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
Maybe, in Australia. Maybe in Sweden too (quite likely, given this ban).> > > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > Mike <mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > > > It is not my job to determine what products should or should not be > > > > granted an exemption. But I have a hunch about what product you would > > > > like to see exempt: thimerosal. > > > What would it be used for? It isn't needed or used in vaccines any > > > more > > Not true. > > > > You did not do your homework again, and again, I did it for you. This is > > the situation for the U.S. (but might be different in Sweden): > > > > "Today, all routinely recommended licensed pediatric vaccines that are > > currently being manufactured for the U.S. market, with the exception of > > influenza vaccine, contain no thimerosal or only trace amounts. > > Thimerosal preservative-free influenza vaccines are available, but in > > limited quantities. The total amount of inactivated influenza vaccine > > available without thimerosal as a preservative will continue to increase > > as manufacturing capabilities are expanded." > > > > http://www.cdc.gov/FLU/ABOUT/QA/thimerosal.htm > > > > So, it is used, and according to CDC it is still needed. > > And the last flu vaccine I had had no mercury in it. I didn't ask - it > was the standard issue. > As for the US (which is not the topic here, but anyway) even childhood flu vaccines contain thimerosal. - quote - > So what is it still needed for? And where in the CDC saying that
It says mercury-free is available *in limited quantities*, did you get it?> mercury-free vaccines are available does it mean that it is still > needed? - quote - >
I cannot keep up with Australia which is also not the topic.> Please try to keep up. - quote - > > > , so unless there is another use for this fine antiseptic I don't > > > know why you think I would have any interest in it. > > > > |
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| On Jan 21, 8:56*am, Linda <Indomitab...[at]netzero.com> wrote: - quote - > On Jan 20, 3:29*pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:
to keeping themselves very happy indeed healthy> > > > > > > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 > > > Subject: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 A press release fromthe > > Swedish Ministry of Environment follows. > > > http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/11459/a/118550 > > > Press release 15 January 2009 Ministry of the Environment > > > Government bans all use of mercury in Sweden The Government today decided to > > introduce a blanket ban on mercury. The ban means that the use of dental > > amalgam in fillings will cease and that it will no longer be permitted to > > place products containing mercury on the Swedish market. > > > "Sweden is now leading the way in removing and protecting the environment > > from mercury, which is non-degradable. The ban is a strong signal to other > > countries and a Swedish contribution to EU and UN aims to reduce mercury use > > and emissions," says Minister for the Environment Andreas Carlgren. > > > The Government's decision means that products containing mercury may not be > > placed on the Swedish market. In practice this means that alternative > > techniques will have to be used in dental care, chemical analysis and the > > chloralkali industry. The Swedish Chemicals Agency will be authorised to > > issue regulations on exceptions or grant exemptions in individual cases.. > > > In connection with the Government's decision, waste containing mercury will > > be disposed of in deep geological repositories in other EU countries. The > > Swedish market for hazardous waste is small. Last spring, a government > > inquiry established that there are existing repositories for waste > > containing mercury in, for example, Germany that more than adequately meet > > the safety requirements on which Swedish legislation is based. Creatinga > > new Swedish repository would be around 15 times more expensive than > > depositing waste in existing facilities in the EU. The bodies consultedon > > this matter shared the inquiry s conclusions. > > > "By using common solutions and almost forty years of experience of storing > > mercury in the EU, we are not lowering safety standards. The waste willbe > > transported to a deep geological repository with high safety standards.In > > accordance with the polluter pays principle, the owners of the waste will be > > responsible for ensuring that disposal in a repository is arranged and > > paying for it," says Mr Carlgren. > > > The disposal possibilities in other EU countries provide better incentives > > for the desired development of safe, large-scale technologies to stabilise > > waste containing mercury. > > > Since the beginning of the 1990s there has been a ban in Sweden on the > > manufacture and sale of certain products containing mercury, including > > thermometers and other measuring devices and electronic components. > > > The new regulations enter into force on 1 June 2009. > > Wow! > > Great victory for health lovers!- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - now me ! True for all people loving to be healthy must learn on ways |
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| Original groups restored. Make a note of it. "Bob Officer" Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 Subject: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 A press release from the Swedish Ministry of Environment follows. http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/11459/a/118550 Press release 15 January 2009 Ministry of the Environment Government bans all use of mercury in Sweden The Government today decided to introduce a blanket ban on mercury. The ban means that the use of dental amalgam in fillings will cease and that it will no longer be permitted to place products containing mercury on the Swedish market. "Sweden is now leading the way in removing and protecting the environment from mercury, which is non-degradable. The ban is a strong signal to other countries and a Swedish contribution to EU and UN aims to reduce mercury use and emissions," says Minister for the Environment Andreas Carlgren. The Government's decision means that products containing mercury may not be placed on the Swedish market. In practice this means that alternative techniques will have to be used in dental care, chemical analysis and the chloralkali industry. The Swedish Chemicals Agency will be authorised to issue regulations on exceptions or grant exemptions in individual cases. In connection with the Government's decision, waste containing mercury will be disposed of in deep geological repositories in other EU countries. The Swedish market for hazardous waste is small. Last spring, a government inquiry established that there are existing repositories for waste containing mercury in, for example, Germany that more than adequately meet the safety requirements on which Swedish legislation is based. Creating a new Swedish repository would be around 15 times more expensive than depositing waste in existing facilities in the EU. The bodies consulted on this matter shared the inquiry s conclusions. "By using common solutions and almost forty years of experience of storing mercury in the EU, we are not lowering safety standards. The waste will be transported to a deep geological repository with high safety standards. In accordance with the polluter pays principle, the owners of the waste will be responsible for ensuring that disposal in a repository is arranged and paying for it," says Mr Carlgren. The disposal possibilities in other EU countries provide better incentives for the desired development of safe, large-scale technologies to stabilise waste containing mercury. Since the beginning of the 1990s there has been a ban in Sweden on the manufacture and sale of certain products containing mercury, including thermometers and other measuring devices and electronic components. The new regulations enter into force on 1 June 2009. |
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| "Bob Officer" <bobofficers[at]127.0.0.7> wrote in message news:rsoqn4lmvlcsuvtagecil4uu1m119iv3jp[at]4ax.com... - quote - > On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:06:10 GMT, in misc.health.alternative,
One of your problems is you are a poor simple minded bloke.> "Carole" <hubbca[at]iimetro.com.au> wrote: > > > > > "Bob Officer" <bobofficers[at]127.0.0.7> wrote in message > > news:66shn4lbbiros706ggc88u4d2lqfv9g08a[at]4ax.com... > > > On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:55:55 GMT, in misc.health.alternative, Peter > > > Bowditch <myfirstname[at]ratbags.com> wrote: > > > > > > > "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 A press release from > > > > > the > > > > > Swedish Ministry of Environment follows. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/11459/a/118550 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Press release 15 January 2009 Ministry of the Environment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Government bans all use of mercury in Sweden The Government today > > > > > decided > > > > > to > > > > > introduce a blanket ban on mercury. The ban means that the use of > > > > > dental > > > > > amalgam in fillings will cease and that it will no longer be permitted > > > > > to > > > > > place products containing mercury on the Swedish market. > > > > > > > > There go the fluorescent lights. Up goes the electricity consumption. > > > > > > also there goes all coal burning power plants, most all batteries, > > > and metal production and mining. Computers and electronic devices. > > > > > > I have to look up the trace on most imported oils and lubricants in > > > Sweden. > > > > > > and the eating of fish... > > > > > > > There goes non-hydroponic timber. Up goes the price of houses, paper > > > > and other timber-based products. > > > > > > > > Is there any limit to the stupidity of knee-jerking politicians? > > > > Or the stupidity of Bob officer? > > > > > > > > No. > > > > Maybe the swedish govt went a little overboard in banning any/all items > > with > > mercury. > > You think? Wait there is still no evidence that you have ever thought > or are able to think. Blokes are responsible for all the crime in the world, pedophiles, rapists etc. Do you think I'd listen to anything you say? - quote - >
I know alt.usenet.kooks is your stomping ground, the group which you> > Isn't mercury used on the back of mirrors? > > <sigh> > Most high quality mirrors are coated with silver > </sigh> > > > But then Bob wouldn't know whether mercury was safe or not, so his opinion > > is worthless. > > I do know where to look up the toxicity of various light and heavy > metals. > > But then Maybe my opinion is worth something. However, Carole, it is > early to start campaigning for your VVF weird science award. > > Keep it up and you may earn a few extra nominations. affiliate with most closely. I think that is rather telling, Butthead. C. - quote - > > > > > -- > Ak'toh'di |
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| On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:06:10 GMT, in misc.health.alternative, "Carole" <hubbca[at]iimetro.com.au> wrote: - quote - >
You think? Wait there is still no evidence that you have ever thought> "Bob Officer" <bobofficers[at]127.0.0.7> wrote in message > news:66shn4lbbiros706ggc88u4d2lqfv9g08a[at]4ax.com... > > On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:55:55 GMT, in misc.health.alternative, Peter > > Bowditch <myfirstname[at]ratbags.com> wrote: > > > > > "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 > > > > > > > > Subject: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 A press release from > > > > the > > > > Swedish Ministry of Environment follows. > > > > > > > > http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/11459/a/118550 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Press release 15 January 2009 Ministry of the Environment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Government bans all use of mercury in Sweden The Government today decided > > > > to > > > > introduce a blanket ban on mercury. The ban means that the use of dental > > > > amalgam in fillings will cease and that it will no longer be permitted to > > > > place products containing mercury on the Swedish market. > > > > > > There go the fluorescent lights. Up goes the electricity consumption. > > > > also there goes all coal burning power plants, most all batteries, > > and metal production and mining. Computers and electronic devices. > > > > I have to look up the trace on most imported oils and lubricants in > > Sweden. > > > > and the eating of fish... > > > > > There goes non-hydroponic timber. Up goes the price of houses, paper > > > and other timber-based products. > > > > > > Is there any limit to the stupidity of knee-jerking politicians? > > Or the stupidity of Bob officer? > > > > > No. > > Maybe the swedish govt went a little overboard in banning any/all items with > mercury. or are able to think. - quote - > Isn't mercury used on the back of mirrors?
<sigh> Most high quality mirrors are coated with silver </sigh> - quote - > But then Bob wouldn't know whether mercury was safe or not, so his opinion
I do know where to look up the toxicity of various light and heavy> is worthless. metals. But then Maybe my opinion is worth something. However, Carole, it is early to start campaigning for your VVF weird science award. Keep it up and you may earn a few extra nominations. -- Ak'toh'di |
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| "Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname[at]ratbags.com> wrote - quote - > "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Blatant> > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > > > What would it be used for? It isn't needed or used in vaccines any more > > > > Blatant lie. > > I realise that you don't understand the meaning of the word "lie" so I > will forgive you for the slur. completely obvious, conspicuous, or obtrusive especially in a crass or offensive manner : brazen <blatant disregard for the rules> Lie 1 : to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive 2 : to create a false or misleading impression No slur just the truth. - quote - > http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm- quote - > >
Not the issue, your blatant lie is.> > > > So, the only one without a mercury-free alternative |
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| "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: - quote - >
I realise that you don't understand the meaning of the word "lie" so I> Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > What would it be used for? It isn't needed or used in vaccines any more > > Blatant lie. will forgive you for the slur. - quote - So, the only one without a mercury-free alternative is the adult one given after exposure to possible tetanus infection. Nobody is ever forced to have this vaccine, so the next time you cut yourself while gardening feel free to contract tetanus. It would merely spread your rigid thinking to your entire body. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
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| http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9481913?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.P ubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pu bmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=4&log$=relatedreviews&lo gdbfrom=pubmed Inorganic mercury is absorbed in small amounts from dental amalgam fillings. Exposure can be calculated by measuring the level of mercury in the blood or urine (u-Hg). The average u-Hg in Norwegians is approximately 2-3 micrograms/g creatinine (approximately 1-2 nmol/mmol creatinine). Classic signs of mercury poisoning occur in a fraction of long-term exposed subjects with u-Hg > 100 micrograms/g creatinine (56 nmol/mmol creatinine). Subtle effects (e.g. enzymuria, altered selenium metabolism, and changes in tremor spectra) have been reported in humans at average levels of 20-35 micrograms/g creatinine (approximately 11-20 nmol/mmol creatinine). There is widespread concern about possible adverse effects of mercury from amalgam fillings. Data on exposure-response relationships make it less likely that low-level mercury exposure from amalgam fillings should cause symptoms or physical signs. Studies of the association between symptoms and amalgam fillings have been negative. Patients with symptoms allegedly caused by mercury from amalgam should undergo thorough medical examination. Based on the patient's symptoms and physical signs adequate time should be allowed for careful recording of medical history, physical examination and relevant laboratory tests. PMID: 9481913 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Occupational exposure to mercury from amalgams during pregnancy. http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsst...5721/story.htm LONDON - Dentists are more likely to suffer memory and kidney problems which could be due to long-term exposure to mercury in tooth fillings, doctors said today. A study of 180 dentists by researchers at the Glasgow Royal Infirmary in Scotland found they had up to four times the normal level of mercury in their urine and nails and had more kidney disorders and memory lapses than the general public. "We found several differences in the health and cognitive functioning between our dentists and the control group," Dr Ewan Macdonald said in a report in the Journal of Occupational and Environmental Medicine. "These differences could not be directly attributed to their exposure to mercury, but as mercury exposure at higher levels is known to cause similar health effects an association cannot be ruled out," he added. Mercury has been used in dentistry for about 150 years but some dentists and researchers believe the fillings can give off harmful vapours that can be dangerous for dentists and patients. Critics of the fillings claim the mercury can poison the body and lead to health problems affecting the kidneys and other organs and neurological diseases such as Alzheimer's. But dental associations say it is safe when mixed with other metals and there are no scientific studies to prove a link between the filling and health problems. The researchers in Glasgow compared mercury levels in urine, hair and nail samples and the results of psychomotor skills, response times, word recall and health problems of the 180 dentists and an equal number of volunteers. The dentists had higher levels of the metal in their bodies, reported more health problems and did worse on the tests than the volunteers. "The prevalence of self reported renal disease and memory disorders reflects other reports and suggests that these may be occupationally related," Macdonald added. http://www.zipworld.com.au/~rgammal/...y_Healthy.html http://tinyurl.com/ccz3 Health and neuropsychological functioning of dentists exposed to mercury. Ritchie KA, Gilmour WH, Macdonald EB, Burke FJ, McGowan DA, Dale IM, Hammersley R, Hamilton RM, Binnie V, Collington D. Institute of Hearing Research (Scottish Section), Glasgow Royal Infirmary, Glasgow, Scotland, UK. k...[at]ihr.gla.ac.uk OBJECTIVES: A cross sectional survey of dentists in the west of Scotland and unmatched controls was conducted to find the effect of chronic exposure to mercury on health and cognitive functioning. METHODS: 180 dentists were asked to complete a questionnaire that included items on handling of amalgam, symptoms experienced, possible influences on psychomotor function, and the 12 item general health questionnaire. Dentists were asked to complete a dental chart of their own mouths and to give samples of urine, hair, and nails for mercury analysis. Environmental measurements of mercury in dentists' surgeries were made and participants undertook a package of computerised psychomotor tests. 180 control subjects underwent a similar procedure, completing a questionnaire, having their amalgam surfaces counted, giving urine, hair, and nail samples and undergoing the psychomotor test package. RESULTS: Dentists had, on average, urinary mercury concentrations over four times that of control subjects, but all but one dentist had urinary mercury below the Health and Safety Executive health guidance value. Dentists were significantly more likely than control subjects to have had disorders of the kidney and memory disturbance. These symptoms were not significantly associated with urinary mercury concentration. Differences were found between the psychomotor performance of dentists and controls after adjusting for age and sex, but there was no significant association between changes in psychomotor response and mercury concentrations in urine, hair, or nails. CONCLUSIONS: Several differences in health and cognitive functioning between dentists and controls were found. These differences could not be directly attributed to their exposure to mercury. However, as similar health effects are known to be associated with mercury exposure, it would be appropriate to consider a system of health surveillance of dental staff with particular emphasis on symptoms associated with mercury toxicity where there is evidence of high levels of exposure to environmental mercury. PMID: 11983843 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] http://tinyurl.com/dbhg9 Neurophysiological and neuropsychological function in mercury-exposed dentists. Shapiro IM, Cornblath DR, Sumner AJ, Uzzell B, Spitz LK, Ship II, Bloch P. In a study of the relation between cumulative exposure to mercury and chronic health impairment 298 dentists had their mercury levels measured by an X-ray fluorescence technique. Electrodiagnostic and neuropsychological findings in the dentists with more than 20 micrograms/g tissue mercury levels were compared with those of a control group consisting of dentists with no detectable mercury levels. 30% of the 23 high mercury dentists had polyneuropathies. No polyneuropathies were detected in the control group. The high mercury group had mild visuographic dysfunction; they also had more symptom-distress than did the control group. These findings suggest that the use of mercury as a restorative material is a health risk for dentists. PMID: 6122938 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] http://tinyurl.com/msg59 Neuropsychological effects of low mercury exposure in dental staff in Erzurum, Turkey. Aydin N, Karaoglanoglu S, Yigit A, Keles MS, Kirpinar I, Seven N. Ataturk Universitesi, Tip Fakultesi, Psikiyatri Anabilim Dali, 25240 Erzurum, Turkey. nmd...[at]hotmail.com OBJECTIVE: To carry out measurements of the Hg levels and personal exposure in Turkish dental clinics, and to evaluate possible adverse effects on the CNS in dental personnel. SETTING: Five dental clinics (1 private, 4 public) in Erzurum, Turkey. SUBJECTS AND METHODS: 43, Hg vapour-exposed dental staff were examined and 43 hospital employees with no known exposure to Hg acted as the control group. Hg concentrations in plasma and urine were analysed by atomic absorption spectrophotometry. Possible effects on the central nervous system (CNS) were estimated by neuropsychological tests (Weschler Memory Scale-Revised (WMS-R) and Verbal Test of Memory Processes (VTMP)) and two self-administered questionnaires (Symptom Checklist-90-Revised (SCL-90-R) and Beck Depression Inventory (BDI)). RESULTS: The dental staff group had higher whole blood (B-Hg) and urine (U-Hg) Hg levels than the control group. The mean B-Hg value was 2.18 nmol/l and U-Hg was 1.17 nmol/mmol creatinine. U-Hg had an inverse relationship with logical memory (in WMS-R test) and total retention score (in VTMP test), and a positive relationship with increased scores of Anxiety and Psychoticism (in SCL-90-R). CONCLUSION: These results may represent long-term consequences of low Hg exposure. In dentistry, to decrease toxic effects, proper Hg hygiene should be practiced by all dental health care workers. http://tinyurl.com/z6jhk Behavioral effects of low-level exposure to elemental Hg among dentists. Echeverria D, Heyer NJ, Martin MD, Naleway CA, Woods JS, Bittner AC Jr. Battelle Center for Public Health Research and Evaluation (CPHRE), Seattle, WA 98105, USA. Exposure thresholds for health effects associated with elemental mercury (Hg degree) exposure were examined by comparing behavioral test scores of 19 exposed (mean urinary Hg = 36 micrograms/l) with those of 20 unexposed dentists. Thirty-six micrograms Hg/l is 7 times greater than the 5 micrograms Hg/l mean level measured in a national sample of dentists. To improve the distinction between recent and cumulative effects, the study also evaluated porphyrin concentrations in urine, which are correlated with renal Hg content (a measure of cumulative body burden). Subjects provided an on-site spot urine sample, were administered a 1-h assessment consisting of a consent form, the Profile of Mood Scales, a symptom and medical questionnaire, and 6 behavioral tests: digit-span, symbol-digit substitution, simple reaction time, the ability to switch between tasks, vocabulary, and the One Hole Test. Multivariate regression techniques were used to evaluate dose-effects controlling for the effects of age, race, gender and alcohol consumption. A dose-effect was considered statistically significant below a p value of 0.05. Significant urinary Hg dose-effects were found for poor mental concentration, emotional lability, somatosensory irritation, and mood scores. Individual tests evaluating cognitive and motor function changed in the expected directions but were not significantly associated with urinary Hg. However, the pooled sum of rank scores for combinations of tests within domains were significantly associated with urinary Hg, providing evidence of subtle preclinical changes in behavior associated with Hg exposure. Coproporphyrin, one of three urinary porphyrins altered by mercury exposure, was significantly associated with deficits in digit span and simple reaction time.(ABSTRACT TRUNCATED AT 250 WORDS) Publication Types: a.. Clinical Trial b.. Randomized Controlled Trial PMID: 7760775 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] http://tinyurl.com/qehsr Women in dental surgeries: reproductive hazards in occupational exposure to metallic mercury. Sikorski R, Juszkiewicz T, Paszkowski T, Szprengier-Juszkiewicz T. Clinic of Gynaecology, Institute of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, Academy of Medicine, Lublin, Poland. Eighty-one women (45 dentists and 36 dental assistants) occupationally exposed to metallic mercury underwent a toxicoclinical examination. Total mercury lebels (TMLs) were determined in scalp and pubic hair by cold vapour AAS. Furthermore a detailed questionnaire study was made concerning adverse reproductive events. TMLs in the hair of the exposed women examined exceeded significantly those determined in the hair of 34 controls not exposed to mercury. All exposed women had continued working during pregnancy. There was a significant, positive association between TMLs in the hair of exposed women and the occurrence of reproductive failures in their history. The relation between TMLs in the scalp hair and the prevalence of menstrual cycle disorders was statistically significant. These findings indicate that dental work could be another occupational hazard with respect to reproductive processes. PMID: 3679554 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] http://tinyurl.com/rvmr5 Neurophysiological and neuropsychological function in mercury-exposed dentists. Shapiro IM, Cornblath DR, Sumner AJ, Uzzell B, Spitz LK, Ship II, Bloch P. In a study of the relation between cumulative exposure to mercury and chronic health impairment 298 dentists had their mercury levels measured by an X-ray fluorescence technique. Electrodiagnostic and neuropsychological findings in the dentists with more than 20 micrograms/g tissue mercury levels were compared with those of a control group consisting of dentists with no detectable mercury levels. 30% of the 23 high mercury dentists had polyneuropathies. No polyneuropathies were detected in the control group. The high mercury group had mild visuographic dysfunction; they also had more symptom-distress than did the control group. These findings suggest that the use of mercury as a restorative material is a health risk for dentists. PMID: 6122938 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] - quote - > > > Speaking of crooks, as you were, what was Manuel inside for? > > Answered. - quote - > By whom? Not you. Wrong. - quote - > -- http://groups.google.com/group/misc....673756ab?hl=en> Peter Bowditch Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative, sci.med.dentistry From: Ilena Rose <Ilena> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 18:47:08 -0600 Local: Fri, Mar 3 2006 7:47 pm Subject: Washington Dental School Under Assault for *Mercury Poisoning*... After being haunted by the Quackwatch Team for over 5 years now ... sometimes I wonder if they could ever surprise me ... Disinformation Specialist Probert today thru out even more garbage. The Quackwatch / Junkscience team are deniers of the dangers of mercury amalgam ... Probert, like Barrett, considers himself an expert. Sure. This boy would lie about anything it seems. His claim below is typical propaganda. Probert spouts: - quote - > True. Medline has TWO studies which use the term "Mercury Amalgam". http://groups.google.com/group/misc....browse_frm/thr... I went to Medline ... there were 235 studies using that term ... the first 20 I've copied below. http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...stProbert.html He just churns out the lies after lies ... this one will go on his Propagandist Probert website to describe this typical Quackwatch / Healthfraud behavior ... Typical of the Quack Gang ... seriously minimize the harm from the products of their handlers ... and blow out of proportion and throw out every form of clarity any problem that occurs near an alternative practice ... when Con Med has failed yet another patient. http://search.medscape.com/uslclient/searchMedline.do?queryText="mercury%20amalgam" MEDLINE Results Results 1 - 20 of 235 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 next» Effect of restoration of children's teeth with mercury amalgam on the prevalence of mercury- and antibiotic-resistant oral bacteria.The purpose of this study was to determine whether placement of mercury amalgam restorations in children's teeth induces an increase in oral bacteria resistant to mercury, penicillin, ampicillin, erythromycin, or tetracycline. from Microb Drug Resist - Jan 2003 - Rachel Pike, Victoria Lucas, Aviva Petrie, et. al. Mercury-reactive lymphocytes in peripheral blood are not a marker for dental amalgam associated disease.OBJECTIVES: The popular press and publications associated with alternative medicine increasingly report that chronic ill health, particularly myalgic encephalitis like conditions, are associated with mercury amalgam fillings. from J Dent - Sep 2001 - D C Henderson, R Clifford Scanning electrochemical microscopy imaging of rhodochrosite dissolution using gold amalgam microelectrodes.Gold/mercury amalgam (Au/Hg) microelectrodes with a diameter of 25 microm were developed for the detection of environmentally relevant analytes such as manganese and iron by scanning electrochemical microscopy (SECM), and applied to investigate the controlled dissolution of manganese carbonate (MnCO(3); rhodochrosite) in acidic conditions. from Analyst - May 2004 - Douglas Rudolph, Stephanie Neuhuber, Christine Kranz, et. al. Prevalence and antibiotic resistance profile of mercury-resistant oral bacteria from children with and without mercury amalgam fillings.Genes encoding resistance to mercury and to antibiotics are often carried on the same mobile genetic element and so it is possible that mercury-containing dental materials may select for bacteria resistant to mercury and to antibiotics. from J Antimicrob Chemother - May 2002 - R Pike, V Lucas, P Stapleton, et. al. The relationship between amalgam restorations and mercury levels in male dentists and nondental health professionals.OBJECTIVES: The objectives of this study were: (1) to compare the mercury levels in general dentists with the mercury levels in other health professionals using toenail clippings as a biomarker, (2) to identify risk factors associated with high mercury levels, and (3) to compare practice characteristics of dentists with high and low mercury levels. from J Public Health Dent - Jan 2003 - Anil Joshi, Chester W Douglass, Hyun-Duck Kim, et. al. Syntheses, structure, and derivatization of potassium complexes of penta(organo)[60]fullerene-monoanion, -dianion, and -trianion into hepta- and octa(organo)fullerenes.Two-electron reduction of penta(organo)[60]fullerenes C(60)Ar(5)H (Ar = Ph and biphenyl) by potassium/mercury amalgam afforded potassium complexes of the corresponding open-shell radical dianions [K+(thf)n]2[C60Ar5(2-. from J Am Chem Soc - Jun 2005 - Yutaka Matsuo Urinary mercury concentrations associated with dental restorations in adult women aged 16-49 years: United States, 1999-2000.BACKGROUND: Mercury amalgam dental restorations have been used by dentists since the mid 19th century and issues on safety continue to be periodically debated within the scientific and public health communities. from Occup Environ Med - Jun 2005 - B A Dye, S E Schober, C F Dillon, et. al. Determination of glutathione in single human hepatocarcinoma cells by capillary electrophoresis with electrochemical detection.A method for determination of glutathione (GSH) in single human hepatocarcinoma (HH) cells was described by capillary zone electrophoresis with electrochemical detection at a gold/mercury amalgam micro-disk electrode. from J Chromatogr B Analyt Technol Biomed Life Sci - Jun 2003 - Wei Wang, Hua Xin, Honglian Shao An uncertain risk and an uncertain future: assessing the legal implications of mercury amalgam fillings.No abstract available from Health Matrix Clevel - Jan 2004 - Mary Ann Chirba-Martin Multiple sclerosis and dental amalgam: case-control study in Ferrara, Italy.Dental amalgam fillings containing mercury have been suggested as a possible risk factor for multiple sclerosis (MS). from Neuroepidemiology - May 2001 - I Casetta, M Invernizzi Dental amalgam and selenium in blood.It has been suggested that selenium (Se) exhibits protective effects against mercury (Hg) toxicity in humans due to formation of a Hg-Se complex bound to selenoprotein P in blood. from Environ Res - Dec 2001 - P J Høl, J S Vamnes, N R Gjerdet, et. al. Transmission electron microscopic study of early stage gamma(1) (Ag(2)Hg(3)) and beta(1) (Ag-Hg) phases: technical note.Incomplete reaction, residual free mercury, and high volatility of mercury are often major causes of the discrepancy in chemical composition of gamma(1) measured by different methods. from Dent Mater - Jul 2002 - J H Chern Lin, K I Chen Occupational hygiene practices of dentists in southern Thailand.OBJECTIVES: The aims of this study were to investigate the prevalence and nature of infection control, radiation control and handling of mercury, reported by dentists in southern Thailand. from Int Dent J - Feb 2001 - P A Leggat, S Chowanadisai, B Kukiattrakoon, et. al. New approaches in the development of DNA sensors: hybridization and electrochemical detection of DNA and RNA at two different surfaces.Up to now, the development of the electrochemical DNA hybridization sensors relied on solid electrodes, on which both the hybridization and detection steps have been performed. from Bioelectrochemistry - May 2002 - E Palecek, M Fojta Determination of mercury in blood, urine and saliva for the biological monitoring of an exposure from amalgam fillings in a group with self-reported adverse health effects.It has been argued that the release of mercury from amalgam fillings is of toxicological relevance. from Int J Hyg Environ Health - Apr 2002 - Holger Zimmer, Heidi Ludwig, Michael Bader, et. al. Urinary mercury excretion following amalgam filling in children.OBJECTIVES: Dental amalgam is the major source of inorganic mercury exposure in the general population. from J Toxicol Clin Toxicol - Jan 2001 - M Khordi-Mood, A R Sarraf-Shirazi Placental transfer of mercury in pregnant rats which received dental amalgam restorations.Mercury vapor released from one, two and four amalgam restorations in pregnant rats and mercury concentrations in maternal and fetal organs were studied. from Toxicology - Mar 2003 - Yoshifumi Takahashi, Shozo Tsuruta, Michitoshi Arimoto, et. al. Oral lichen planus and allergy to dental amalgam restorations.OBJECTIVES: To determine contact allergies in patients with oral lichen planus and to monitor the effect of partial or complete replacement of amalgam fillings following a positive patch test reaction to ammoniated mercury, metallic mercury, or amalgam. from Arch Dermatol - Dec 2004 - Ronald Laeijendecker, Sybren K Dekker, Piet M Burger, et. al. [The dynamic change of mercury concentration in urine after amalgam filled]OBJECTIVE: Through the regular examination of mercury concentration in urine this study was to observe the dynamic change of the mercury concentration in the patients with amalgam fillings so as to find out the effect of amalgam on health. from Shanghai Kou Qiang Yi Xue - Mar 2001 - J Wang [Amalgam risk assessment with coverage of references up to 2005]Amalgam, which has been in use in dentistry for 150 years, consists of 50 % elemental mercury and a mixture of silver, tin, copper and zinc. from Gesundheitswesen - Mar 2005 - J Mutter, J Naumann, H Walach |
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