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All diversions deleted.
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Re: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009
"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- quote - > BTW, someone should let Quack Barrett know of the news.
I have no idea who this is, so perhaps you should tell the personyourself. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
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01-24-2009, 12:48 PM
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Re: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009
Mike <mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
- quote - > Peter Bowditch wrote:
What would it be used for? It isn't needed or used in vaccines any> > Mike <mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > > Mike <Mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > > > > Mike <Mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > > > > > > "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 A press release from the > > > > > > > > > Swedish Ministry of Environment follows. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/11459/a/118550 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Press release 15 January 2009 Ministry of the Environment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Government bans all use of mercury in Sweden The Government today decided to > > > > > > > > > introduce a blanket ban on mercury. The ban means that the use of dental > > > > > > > > > amalgam in fillings will cease and that it will no longer be permitted to > > > > > > > > > place products containing mercury on the Swedish market. > > > > > > > > There go the fluorescent lights. Up goes the electricity consumption. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not likely. Quote: "The Swedish Chemicals Agency will be authorised to > > > > > > > issue regulations on exceptions or grant exemptions in individual > > > > > > > cases." A fluorescent bulb contains on average 4 milligrams of mercury. > > > > > > > A dental amalgam filling weighs on average 850 mg and contains slightly > > > > > > > less than 50% mercury - that is, 100 times more than a fluorescent bulb. > > > > > > > Looks like a prime candidate for such an exception. > > > > > > So the statement "it will no longer be permitted to place products > > > > > > containing mercury on the Swedish market" is not true? > > > > > > > > > > > > Whoda thunk it? > > > > > Yes, there probably will be exemptions, didn't you get it? > > > > Of course - the words "it will no longer be permitted" always mean "it > > > > will no longer be permitted except when it will be permitted". Well, > > > > oxymorons like that are part of alternative logic so of course they > > > > also apply to alternative medicine believers. > > > Could not make up a better nonsense? Exemptions are part of many laws in > > > may countries, never heard of them? Has nothing to do with alternative > > > or any other medicine. > > > > I didn't think you would understand the comparison. Just add it to all > > the other things you don't understand. > > > > So what exemptions would you like to see to the total ban which will > > mean that "it will no longer be permitted to place products containing > > mercury on the Swedish market"? > > It is not my job to determine what products should or should not be > granted an exemption. But I have a hunch about what product you would > like to see exempt: thimerosal. more, so unless there is another use for this fine antiseptic I don't know why you think I would have any interest in it. - quote - >
--> > > > > > > > > > There goes non-hydroponic timber. Up goes the price of houses, paper > > > > > > > > and other timber-based products. > > > > > > > What??? Timber contains mercury? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The only Google links on "mercury in timber" were about car insurance > > > > > > > for a new Mercury in Timber, Oregon or about price for a Mercury in > > > > > > > Timber Lake, South Dakota. Thanks for making my day. > > > > > > You do know what is the major source of mercury put into the > > > > > > atmosphere in the US, don't you? > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a hint. Think smoke. Think water bombing. > > > > > You are wrong again. The source of mercury in a forest fire is not tree > > > > > trunks. It is foliage and ground litter (because much of it is > > > > > decomposed foliage). Do you homework next time. > > > > Did you stop to think for a minute where the foliage and ground litter > > > > came from? Here's a hint - trees. > > > But not that parts of trees that are sold as timber. If you have any > > > evidence of mercury in timber (real evidence, not this BS) please > > > present it. > > > > Let's see. There is mercury in the leaves - you have stated that > > yourself. It can only have come from the soil. > > Here is a link for you: "Accumulation of atmospheric mercury in forest > foliage". > > http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...19c38612729313 > > Got it? It comes from the air, not from the soil. Too complicated for > you, I guess. > > So how does the mercury > > get from the soil to the leaves? Telekinesis? Now what are those > > things called that go between the soil and the leaves? Oh, that's > > right - trunks. Where the timber comes from. > > I repeat: do your homework before accidentally exposing your ignorance. > > > > > > > No, I didn't think so, but thanks for admitting that you know what the > > > > major source of mercury pollution of the environment is. > > > > > > > > > > > Bravo, Sweden. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <snip remaining knee-jerk> > > Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
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01-24-2009, 05:07 AM
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Re: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009
Peter Bowditch wrote:
- quote - > Mike <mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
The answer is in another subthread. Tree trunks are indeed between the> > > Bob Officer wrote: > > > On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 05:30:56 GMT, in misc.health.alternative, Mike > > > <Mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > > > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > > > Mike <Mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > > > > > "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 A press release from the > > > > > > > > Swedish Ministry of Environment follows. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/11459/a/118550 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Press release 15 January 2009 Ministry of the Environment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Government bans all use of mercury in Sweden The Government today decided to > > > > > > > > introduce a blanket ban on mercury. The ban means that the use of dental > > > > > > > > amalgam in fillings will cease and that it will no longer be permitted to > > > > > > > > place products containing mercury on the Swedish market. > > > > > > > There go the fluorescent lights. Up goes the electricity consumption. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not likely. Quote: "The Swedish Chemicals Agency will be authorised to > > > > > > issue regulations on exceptions or grant exemptions in individual > > > > > > cases." A fluorescent bulb contains on average 4 milligrams of mercury. > > > > > > A dental amalgam filling weighs on average 850 mg and contains slightly > > > > > > less than 50% mercury - that is, 100 times more than a fluorescent bulb. > > > > > > Looks like a prime candidate for such an exception. > > > > > So the statement "it will no longer be permitted to place products > > > > > containing mercury on the Swedish market" is not true? > > > > > > > > > > Whoda thunk it? > > > > Yes, there probably will be exemptions, didn't you get it? > > > Weasel wording... > > > > > > > > > > There goes non-hydroponic timber. Up goes the price of houses, paper > > > > > > > and other timber-based products. > > > > > > What??? Timber contains mercury? > > > > > > > > > > > > The only Google links on "mercury in timber" were about car insurance > > > > > > for a new Mercury in Timber, Oregon or about price for a Mercury in > > > > > > Timber Lake, South Dakota. Thanks for making my day. > > > > > You do know what is the major source of mercury put into the > > > > > atmosphere in the US, don't you? > > > > > > > > > > Here's a hint. Think smoke. Think water bombing. > > > > You are wrong again. The source of mercury in a forest fire is not tree > > > > trunks. It is foliage and ground litter (because much of it is > > > > decomposed foliage). Do you homework next time. > > > Just were does the decomposing material come from? Lets apply a > > > little logic here... > > > > > > Could it be from the trees? Plant life, like animal life tends to > > > concentrate some minerals. > > > > > The point was, if you still remember, timber. Tree trunks, that is. Not > > foliage, live or decomposed. > > Those would be the trunks which aren't between the ground and the > foliage, I take it? > > Do you ever stop to think? (And no, I am not trying to start another > rhetorical question cascade.) > ground and foliage but mercury comes from the air. Hard to imagine, is it? - quote - > > > Why is it that shellfish and fish downstream from a paper plant have
> > > larger amounts of mercury, than those upstream? > > > > > What is your implication? Is it different from other types of plants? > > > > > > > > Bravo, Sweden. > > > > > > > > > > > > > <snip remaining knee-jerk> > > > > |
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01-24-2009, 05:05 AM
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Re: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009
Peter Bowditch wrote:
- quote - > Mike <mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
It is not my job to determine what products should or should not be> > > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > Mike <Mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > > > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > > > Mike <Mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > > > > > "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 A press release from the > > > > > > > > Swedish Ministry of Environment follows. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/11459/a/118550 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Press release 15 January 2009 Ministry of the Environment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Government bans all use of mercury in Sweden The Government today decided to > > > > > > > > introduce a blanket ban on mercury. The ban means that the use of dental > > > > > > > > amalgam in fillings will cease and that it will no longer be permitted to > > > > > > > > place products containing mercury on the Swedish market. > > > > > > > There go the fluorescent lights. Up goes the electricity consumption. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not likely. Quote: "The Swedish Chemicals Agency will be authorised to > > > > > > issue regulations on exceptions or grant exemptions in individual > > > > > > cases." A fluorescent bulb contains on average 4 milligrams of mercury. > > > > > > A dental amalgam filling weighs on average 850 mg and contains slightly > > > > > > less than 50% mercury - that is, 100 times more than a fluorescent bulb. > > > > > > Looks like a prime candidate for such an exception. > > > > > So the statement "it will no longer be permitted to place products > > > > > containing mercury on the Swedish market" is not true? > > > > > > > > > > Whoda thunk it? > > > > Yes, there probably will be exemptions, didn't you get it? > > > Of course - the words "it will no longer be permitted" always mean "it > > > will no longer be permitted except when it will be permitted". Well, > > > oxymorons like that are part of alternative logic so of course they > > > also apply to alternative medicine believers. > > Could not make up a better nonsense? Exemptions are part of many laws in > > may countries, never heard of them? Has nothing to do with alternative > > or any other medicine. > > I didn't think you would understand the comparison. Just add it to all > the other things you don't understand. > > So what exemptions would you like to see to the total ban which will > mean that "it will no longer be permitted to place products containing > mercury on the Swedish market"? granted an exemption. But I have a hunch about what product you would like to see exempt: thimerosal. - quote - >
Here is a link for you: "Accumulation of atmospheric mercury in forest> > > > > > > There goes non-hydroponic timber. Up goes the price of houses, paper > > > > > > > and other timber-based products. > > > > > > What??? Timber contains mercury? > > > > > > > > > > > > The only Google links on "mercury in timber" were about car insurance > > > > > > for a new Mercury in Timber, Oregon or about price for a Mercury in > > > > > > Timber Lake, South Dakota. Thanks for making my day. > > > > > You do know what is the major source of mercury put into the > > > > > atmosphere in the US, don't you? > > > > > > > > > > Here's a hint. Think smoke. Think water bombing. > > > > You are wrong again. The source of mercury in a forest fire is not tree > > > > trunks. It is foliage and ground litter (because much of it is > > > > decomposed foliage). Do you homework next time. > > > Did you stop to think for a minute where the foliage and ground litter > > > came from? Here's a hint - trees. > > But not that parts of trees that are sold as timber. If you have any > > evidence of mercury in timber (real evidence, not this BS) please > > present it. > > Let's see. There is mercury in the leaves - you have stated that > yourself. It can only have come from the soil. foliage". http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...19c38612729313 Got it? It comes from the air, not from the soil. Too complicated for you, I guess. So how does the mercury - quote - > get from the soil to the leaves? Telekinesis? Now what are those
I repeat: do your homework before accidentally exposing your ignorance.> things called that go between the soil and the leaves? Oh, that's > right - trunks. Where the timber comes from. - quote - >
> > > No, I didn't think so, but thanks for admitting that you know what the > > > major source of mercury pollution of the environment is. > > > > > > > > > Bravo, Sweden. > > > > > > > > > > > > > <snip remaining knee-jerk> > |
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01-24-2009, 03:35 AM
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Re: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009
LOL! Be my guest!
On Jan 23, 10:03*pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: - quote - > BTW, someone should let Quack Barrett know of the news.
> > "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > > news:Cavel.15003$c45.4029[at]nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com... > > > > > > > "Kevysmom" <bluebun...[at]gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1a5dd862-e0e0-49a5-9b0c-ebaf945e0dc4[at]g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com... > > Sweden bans mercury fillings, But the United States being the greedy > > country they are, Just give out warnings(This only happened because > > the FDA was sued) for those who can afford the more expensive > > alternative while our poor children are forced to be exposed to > > mercury in the fillings. > > > metal fillings break, kids swallow pieces of mercury from thier > > fillings all the time. > > > FDA warns about mercury fillings for children > > Precautions also urged for pregnant women as agency mulls other limits > > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25139198/ > > > Very good, Donna. > > The dangers of amalgams have been know for a long time. > > > http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Lhealthfraud2.htm > > > http://www.health.gov/environment/am...ppendixIII.htm > > > On Jan 20, 6:29 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - |
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01-24-2009, 03:03 AM
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BTW, someone should let Quack Barrett know of the news.
"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:Cavel.15003$c45.4029[at]nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com... - quote - >
> "Kevysmom" <bluebunny8[at]gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1a5dd862-e0e0-49a5-9b0c-ebaf945e0dc4[at]g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com... > Sweden bans mercury fillings, But the United States being the greedy > country they are, Just give out warnings(This only happened because > the FDA was sued) for those who can afford the more expensive > alternative while our poor children are forced to be exposed to > mercury in the fillings. > > > > metal fillings break, kids swallow pieces of mercury from thier > fillings all the time. > > > > FDA warns about mercury fillings for children > Precautions also urged for pregnant women as agency mulls other limits > > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25139198/ > > Very good, Donna. > The dangers of amalgams have been know for a long time. > > http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Lhealthfraud2.htm > > http://www.health.gov/environment/am...ppendixIII.htm > > > On Jan 20, 6:29 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 > > > > |
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01-24-2009, 02:38 AM
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"Kevysmom" <bluebunny8[at]gmail.com> wrote in message news:1a5dd862-e0e0-49a5-9b0c-ebaf945e0dc4[at]g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com... Sweden bans mercury fillings, But the United States being the greedy country they are, Just give out warnings(This only happened because the FDA was sued) for those who can afford the more expensive alternative while our poor children are forced to be exposed to mercury in the fillings. metal fillings break, kids swallow pieces of mercury from thier fillings all the time. FDA warns about mercury fillings for children Precautions also urged for pregnant women as agency mulls other limits http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25139198/ Very good, Donna. The dangers of amalgams have been know for a long time. http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Lhealthfraud2.htm http://www.health.gov/environment/am...ppendixIII.htm On Jan 20, 6:29 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: - quote - > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009
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01-23-2009, 06:10 PM
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Sweden bans mercury fillings, But the United States being the greedy
country they are, Just give out warnings(This only happened because the FDA was sued) for those who can afford the more expensive alternative while our poor children are forced to be exposed to mercury in the fillings. metal fillings break, kids swallow pieces of mercury from thier fillings all the time. FDA warns about mercury fillings for children Precautions also urged for pregnant women as agency mulls other limits http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25139198/ On Jan 20, 6:29*pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: - quote - > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009
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01-23-2009, 04:45 PM
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Re: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009
vaughn wrote:
- quote - > "Linda" <Indomitable2[at]netzero.com> wrote in message
> news:eff32db8-8656-4bd8-a346-88a98c475287[at]q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com... > On Jan 21, 9:37 pm, Mike <M...[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > What I know is flourescent lighting induces temporal lobe epilepsy, > > Yes, but where does your "2 %" figure come from? You would think that if > fluorescent lighting induces seizures in 2% of the population, I would have > met at least one of those poor stricken folks in the last 67 years. > > > and, the members of the various criminal cartels monopolizing health > > care in the US have conspired to suppress that fact. > > Absolute tinfoil-hat nonsense! The idea of lighting as a seizure trigger > has been commonly known at least since my childhood; which is when I first > heard of the idea. What makes you think that there is some grand > conspiracy? > > Vaughn x-posting to misc.health.alternative removed Vaughn-- This is not from Linda, but from Carole, who has also commented on this topic. http://www.conspiracee.com/ Just a taste should do ya. Steve - quote - >
> -- Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 |
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01-23-2009, 03:00 PM
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On Jan 23, 6:17*am, "vaughn" <vaughnsimonHATESS...[at]att.FAKE.net>
wrote: - quote - > "Linda" <Indomitab...[at]netzero.com> wrote in message
temporal lobe epilepsy in 2% of the population> > news:eff32db8-8656-4bd8-a346-88a98c475287[at]q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com... > On Jan 21, 9:37 pm, Mike <M...[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > > What I know is flourescent lighting induces temporal lobe epilepsy, > > * > fluorescent lighting induces |
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01-23-2009, 02:17 PM
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Re: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009
"Linda" <Indomitable2[at]netzero.com> wrote in message news:eff32db8-8656-4bd8-a346-88a98c475287[at]q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com... On Jan 21, 9:37 pm, Mike <M...[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: - quote - > What I know is flourescent lighting induces temporal lobe epilepsy,
Yes, but where does your "2 %" figure come from? You would think that iffluorescent lighting induces seizures in 2% of the population, I would have met at least one of those poor stricken folks in the last 67 years. - quote - > and, the members of the various criminal cartels monopolizing health
Absolute tinfoil-hat nonsense! The idea of lighting as a seizure trigger> care in the US have conspired to suppress that fact. has been commonly known at least since my childhood; which is when I first heard of the idea. What makes you think that there is some grand conspiracy? Vaughn |
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01-23-2009, 01:06 PM
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"Bob Officer" <bobofficers[at]127.0.0.7> wrote in message news:66shn4lbbiros706ggc88u4d2lqfv9g08a[at]4ax.com... - quote - > On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:55:55 GMT, in misc.health.alternative, Peter
Or the stupidity of Bob officer?> Bowditch <myfirstname[at]ratbags.com> wrote: > > > "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 > > > > > > Subject: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 A press release from > > > the > > > Swedish Ministry of Environment follows. > > > > > > http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/11459/a/118550 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Press release 15 January 2009 Ministry of the Environment > > > > > > > > > > > > Government bans all use of mercury in Sweden The Government today decided > > > to > > > introduce a blanket ban on mercury. The ban means that the use of dental > > > amalgam in fillings will cease and that it will no longer be permitted to > > > place products containing mercury on the Swedish market. > > > > There go the fluorescent lights. Up goes the electricity consumption. > > also there goes all coal burning power plants, most all batteries, > and metal production and mining. Computers and electronic devices. > > I have to look up the trace on most imported oils and lubricants in > Sweden. > > and the eating of fish... > > > There goes non-hydroponic timber. Up goes the price of houses, paper > > and other timber-based products. > > > > Is there any limit to the stupidity of knee-jerking politicians? - quote - >
Maybe the swedish govt went a little overboard in banning any/all items with> No. mercury. Isn't mercury used on the back of mirrors? But then Bob wouldn't know whether mercury was safe or not, so his opinion is worthless. carole www.cellsalts.net - quote - >
> > <snip remaining knee-jerk> > > -- > Ak'toh'di |
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01-23-2009, 12:26 PM
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On Jan 21, 9:37*pm, Mike <M...[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
- quote - > Linda wrote:
I wouldn't know.> > On Jan 21, 10:29 am, Mark & Steven Bornfeld > > <bornfeldm...[at]dentaltwins.com> wrote: > > > Linda wrote: > > > > On Jan 20, 8:33 pm, Mike <M...[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > > > > "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > > > > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 > > > > > > > Subject: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 A press releasefrom the > > > > > > > Swedish Ministry of Environment follows. > > > > > > > http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/11459/a/118550 > > > > > > > Press release 15 January 2009 Ministry of the Environment > > > > > > > Government bans all use of mercury in Sweden The Government today decided to > > > > > > > introduce a blanket ban on mercury. The ban means that the use of dental > > > > > > > amalgam in fillings will cease and that it will no longer be permitted to > > > > > > > place products containing mercury on the Swedish market. > > > > > > There go the fluorescent lights. Up goes the electricity consumption. > > > > > Not likely. Quote: "The Swedish Chemicals Agency will be authorised to > > > > > issue regulations on exceptions or grant exemptions in individual > > > > > cases." A fluorescent bulb contains on average 4 milligrams of mercury. > > > > > A dental amalgam filling weighs on average 850 mg and contains slightly > > > > > less than 50% mercury - that is, 100 times more than a fluorescent bulb. > > > > > Looks like a prime candidate for such an exception. > > > > Why? > > > > Fluorescent lighting is not and has never been cost effective when ALL > > > > the costs of flourescent lighting are figured into the cost benefit > > > > analysis, *costs which include the debilitation of 2% of the > > > > population as a result of the Temporal Lobe Epilepsy flourescent > > > > lighting is known to cause. > > > Wow--where are the lawyers on this one? > > > Very good question! > > > Can you imagine the HORRIFIC abuse which 2% of all american children > > have been being subjected to as a result of their being transferred > > out of fluorescent lighted regular classrooms to fluorescent lighted > > SPED programs, *then, *institutionalized in fluorescent lighted child > > study centers, where they ALL wind up lying in their piss and shit > > with drool all over their chests while members of the various mental > > health related criminal cartels perform horrific experiments upon them > > when they aren't raping and sodomizing them? > > So really, where are the lawyers? > If 2% of children has epilepsy induced > or exacerbated by fluorescent lighting then there must be a plenty of > lawyers even among their parents and grandparents. And several > congresspersons, and a couple of senators, too What I know is flourescent lighting induces temporal lobe epilepsy, and, the members of the various criminal cartels monopolizing health care in the US have conspired to suppress that fact. |
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01-23-2009, 11:44 AM
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Re: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009
Mike <mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
- quote - > Bob Officer wrote:
Those would be the trunks which aren't between the ground and the> > On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 05:30:56 GMT, in misc.health.alternative, Mike > > <Mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > > Mike <Mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > > > > "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 A press release from the > > > > > > > Swedish Ministry of Environment follows. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/11459/a/118550 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Press release 15 January 2009 Ministry of the Environment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Government bans all use of mercury in Sweden The Government today decided to > > > > > > > introduce a blanket ban on mercury. The ban means that the use of dental > > > > > > > amalgam in fillings will cease and that it will no longer be permitted to > > > > > > > place products containing mercury on the Swedish market. > > > > > > There go the fluorescent lights. Up goes the electricity consumption. > > > > > > > > > > > Not likely. Quote: "The Swedish Chemicals Agency will be authorised to > > > > > issue regulations on exceptions or grant exemptions in individual > > > > > cases." A fluorescent bulb contains on average 4 milligrams of mercury. > > > > > A dental amalgam filling weighs on average 850 mg and contains slightly > > > > > less than 50% mercury - that is, 100 times more than a fluorescent bulb. > > > > > Looks like a prime candidate for such an exception. > > > > So the statement "it will no longer be permitted to place products > > > > containing mercury on the Swedish market" is not true? > > > > > > > > Whoda thunk it? > > > Yes, there probably will be exemptions, didn't you get it? > > > > Weasel wording... > > > > > > > > There goes non-hydroponic timber. Up goes the price of houses, paper > > > > > > and other timber-based products. > > > > > What??? Timber contains mercury? > > > > > > > > > > The only Google links on "mercury in timber" were about car insurance > > > > > for a new Mercury in Timber, Oregon or about price for a Mercury in > > > > > Timber Lake, South Dakota. Thanks for making my day. > > > > You do know what is the major source of mercury put into the > > > > atmosphere in the US, don't you? > > > > > > > > Here's a hint. Think smoke. Think water bombing. > > > You are wrong again. The source of mercury in a forest fire is not tree > > > trunks. It is foliage and ground litter (because much of it is > > > decomposed foliage). Do you homework next time. > > > > Just were does the decomposing material come from? Lets apply a > > little logic here... > > > > Could it be from the trees? Plant life, like animal life tends to > > concentrate some minerals. > > > > The point was, if you still remember, timber. Tree trunks, that is. Not > foliage, live or decomposed. foliage, I take it? Do you ever stop to think? (And no, I am not trying to start another rhetorical question cascade.) - quote - >
--> > > > Why is it that shellfish and fish downstream from a paper plant have > > larger amounts of mercury, than those upstream? > > > > What is your implication? Is it different from other types of plants? > > > > > > Bravo, Sweden. > > > > > > > > > > > <snip remaining knee-jerk> > > > > Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
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01-23-2009, 11:43 AM
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Re: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009
Mike <mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
- quote - > Peter Bowditch wrote:
I didn't think you would understand the comparison. Just add it to all> > Mike <Mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > > Mike <Mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > > > > "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 A press release from the > > > > > > > Swedish Ministry of Environment follows. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/11459/a/118550 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Press release 15 January 2009 Ministry of the Environment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Government bans all use of mercury in Sweden The Government today decided to > > > > > > > introduce a blanket ban on mercury. The ban means that the use of dental > > > > > > > amalgam in fillings will cease and that it will no longer be permitted to > > > > > > > place products containing mercury on the Swedish market. > > > > > > There go the fluorescent lights. Up goes the electricity consumption. > > > > > > > > > > > Not likely. Quote: "The Swedish Chemicals Agency will be authorised to > > > > > issue regulations on exceptions or grant exemptions in individual > > > > > cases." A fluorescent bulb contains on average 4 milligrams of mercury. > > > > > A dental amalgam filling weighs on average 850 mg and contains slightly > > > > > less than 50% mercury - that is, 100 times more than a fluorescent bulb. > > > > > Looks like a prime candidate for such an exception. > > > > So the statement "it will no longer be permitted to place products > > > > containing mercury on the Swedish market" is not true? > > > > > > > > Whoda thunk it? > > > Yes, there probably will be exemptions, didn't you get it? > > > > Of course - the words "it will no longer be permitted" always mean "it > > will no longer be permitted except when it will be permitted". Well, > > oxymorons like that are part of alternative logic so of course they > > also apply to alternative medicine believers. > > Could not make up a better nonsense? Exemptions are part of many laws in > may countries, never heard of them? Has nothing to do with alternative > or any other medicine. the other things you don't understand. So what exemptions would you like to see to the total ban which will mean that "it will no longer be permitted to place products containing mercury on the Swedish market"? - quote - >
Let's see. There is mercury in the leaves - you have stated that> > > > > > > > There goes non-hydroponic timber. Up goes the price of houses, paper > > > > > > and other timber-based products. > > > > > What??? Timber contains mercury? > > > > > > > > > > The only Google links on "mercury in timber" were about car insurance > > > > > for a new Mercury in Timber, Oregon or about price for a Mercury in > > > > > Timber Lake, South Dakota. Thanks for making my day. > > > > You do know what is the major source of mercury put into the > > > > atmosphere in the US, don't you? > > > > > > > > Here's a hint. Think smoke. Think water bombing. > > > You are wrong again. The source of mercury in a forest fire is not tree > > > trunks. It is foliage and ground litter (because much of it is > > > decomposed foliage). Do you homework next time. > > > > Did you stop to think for a minute where the foliage and ground litter > > came from? Here's a hint - trees. > > But not that parts of trees that are sold as timber. If you have any > evidence of mercury in timber (real evidence, not this BS) please > present it. yourself. It can only have come from the soil. So how does the mercury get from the soil to the leaves? Telekinesis? Now what are those things called that go between the soil and the leaves? Oh, that's right - trunks. Where the timber comes from. - quote - >
--> > > > No, I didn't think so, but thanks for admitting that you know what the > > major source of mercury pollution of the environment is. > > > > > > > Bravo, Sweden. > > > > > > > > > > > <snip remaining knee-jerk> > > Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
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01-23-2009, 05:06 AM
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Re: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009
Bob Officer wrote:
- quote - > On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 05:30:56 GMT, in misc.health.alternative, Mike
The point was, if you still remember, timber. Tree trunks, that is. Not> <Mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > Mike <Mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > > > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > > > "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 A press release from the > > > > > > Swedish Ministry of Environment follows. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/11459/a/118550 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Press release 15 January 2009 Ministry of the Environment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Government bans all use of mercury in Sweden The Government today decided to > > > > > > introduce a blanket ban on mercury. The ban means that the use of dental > > > > > > amalgam in fillings will cease and that it will no longer be permitted to > > > > > > place products containing mercury on the Swedish market. > > > > > There go the fluorescent lights. Up goes the electricity consumption. > > > > > > > > > Not likely. Quote: "The Swedish Chemicals Agency will be authorised to > > > > issue regulations on exceptions or grant exemptions in individual > > > > cases." A fluorescent bulb contains on average 4 milligrams of mercury. > > > > A dental amalgam filling weighs on average 850 mg and contains slightly > > > > less than 50% mercury - that is, 100 times more than a fluorescent bulb. > > > > Looks like a prime candidate for such an exception. > > > So the statement "it will no longer be permitted to place products > > > containing mercury on the Swedish market" is not true? > > > > > > Whoda thunk it? > > Yes, there probably will be exemptions, didn't you get it? > > Weasel wording... > > > > > > There goes non-hydroponic timber. Up goes the price of houses, paper > > > > > and other timber-based products. > > > > What??? Timber contains mercury? > > > > > > > > The only Google links on "mercury in timber" were about car insurance > > > > for a new Mercury in Timber, Oregon or about price for a Mercury in > > > > Timber Lake, South Dakota. Thanks for making my day. > > > You do know what is the major source of mercury put into the > > > atmosphere in the US, don't you? > > > > > > Here's a hint. Think smoke. Think water bombing. > > You are wrong again. The source of mercury in a forest fire is not tree > > trunks. It is foliage and ground litter (because much of it is > > decomposed foliage). Do you homework next time. > > Just were does the decomposing material come from? Lets apply a > little logic here... > > Could it be from the trees? Plant life, like animal life tends to > concentrate some minerals. > foliage, live or decomposed. - quote - >
What is your implication? Is it different from other types of plants?> Why is it that shellfish and fish downstream from a paper plant have > larger amounts of mercury, than those upstream? > - quote - > > > > Bravo, Sweden.
> > > > > > > > > <snip remaining knee-jerk> > > |
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01-23-2009, 04:55 AM
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Re: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009
Peter Bowditch wrote:
- quote - > Mike <Mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
Could not make up a better nonsense? Exemptions are part of many laws in> > > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > Mike <Mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > > > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > > > "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 A press release from the > > > > > > Swedish Ministry of Environment follows. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/11459/a/118550 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Press release 15 January 2009 Ministry of the Environment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Government bans all use of mercury in Sweden The Government today decided to > > > > > > introduce a blanket ban on mercury. The ban means that the use of dental > > > > > > amalgam in fillings will cease and that it will no longer be permitted to > > > > > > place products containing mercury on the Swedish market. > > > > > There go the fluorescent lights. Up goes the electricity consumption. > > > > > > > > > Not likely. Quote: "The Swedish Chemicals Agency will be authorised to > > > > issue regulations on exceptions or grant exemptions in individual > > > > cases." A fluorescent bulb contains on average 4 milligrams of mercury. > > > > A dental amalgam filling weighs on average 850 mg and contains slightly > > > > less than 50% mercury - that is, 100 times more than a fluorescent bulb. > > > > Looks like a prime candidate for such an exception. > > > So the statement "it will no longer be permitted to place products > > > containing mercury on the Swedish market" is not true? > > > > > > Whoda thunk it? > > Yes, there probably will be exemptions, didn't you get it? > > Of course - the words "it will no longer be permitted" always mean "it > will no longer be permitted except when it will be permitted". Well, > oxymorons like that are part of alternative logic so of course they > also apply to alternative medicine believers. may countries, never heard of them? Has nothing to do with alternative or any other medicine. - quote - >
But not that parts of trees that are sold as timber. If you have any> > > > > There goes non-hydroponic timber. Up goes the price of houses, paper > > > > > and other timber-based products. > > > > What??? Timber contains mercury? > > > > > > > > The only Google links on "mercury in timber" were about car insurance > > > > for a new Mercury in Timber, Oregon or about price for a Mercury in > > > > Timber Lake, South Dakota. Thanks for making my day. > > > You do know what is the major source of mercury put into the > > > atmosphere in the US, don't you? > > > > > > Here's a hint. Think smoke. Think water bombing. > > You are wrong again. The source of mercury in a forest fire is not tree > > trunks. It is foliage and ground litter (because much of it is > > decomposed foliage). Do you homework next time. > > Did you stop to think for a minute where the foliage and ground litter > came from? Here's a hint - trees. evidence of mercury in timber (real evidence, not this BS) please present it. - quote - >
> No, I didn't think so, but thanks for admitting that you know what the > major source of mercury pollution of the environment is. > > > > > Bravo, Sweden. > > > > > > > > > <snip remaining knee-jerk> > |
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01-22-2009, 10:33 PM
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Re: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 05:30:56 GMT, in misc.health.alternative, Mike
<Mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: - quote - > Peter Bowditch wrote:
Weasel wording...> > Mike <Mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote: > > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote: > > > > "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 A press release from the > > > > > Swedish Ministry of Environment follows. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/11459/a/118550 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Press release 15 January 2009 Ministry of the Environment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Government bans all use of mercury in Sweden The Government today decided to > > > > > introduce a blanket ban on mercury. The ban means that the use of dental > > > > > amalgam in fillings will cease and that it will no longer be permitted to > > > > > place products containing mercury on the Swedish market. > > > > There go the fluorescent lights. Up goes the electricity consumption. > > > > > > > Not likely. Quote: "The Swedish Chemicals Agency will be authorised to > > > issue regulations on exceptions or grant exemptions in individual > > > cases." A fluorescent bulb contains on average 4 milligrams of mercury. > > > A dental amalgam filling weighs on average 850 mg and contains slightly > > > less than 50% mercury - that is, 100 times more than a fluorescent bulb. > > > Looks like a prime candidate for such an exception. > > > > So the statement "it will no longer be permitted to place products > > containing mercury on the Swedish market" is not true? > > > > Whoda thunk it? > > Yes, there probably will be exemptions, didn't you get it? - quote - > >
Just were does the decomposing material come from? Lets apply a> > > > There goes non-hydroponic timber. Up goes the price of houses, paper > > > > and other timber-based products. > > > What??? Timber contains mercury? > > > > > > The only Google links on "mercury in timber" were about car insurance > > > for a new Mercury in Timber, Oregon or about price for a Mercury in > > > Timber Lake, South Dakota. Thanks for making my day. > > > > You do know what is the major source of mercury put into the > > atmosphere in the US, don't you? > > > > Here's a hint. Think smoke. Think water bombing. > > You are wrong again. The source of mercury in a forest fire is not tree > trunks. It is foliage and ground litter (because much of it is > decomposed foliage). Do you homework next time. little logic here... Could it be from the trees? Plant life, like animal life tends to concentrate some minerals. Why is it that shellfish and fish downstream from a paper plant have larger amounts of mercury, than those upstream? - quote - > > > Bravo, Sweden.
> > > > > > > <snip remaining knee-jerk> > > -- Ak'toh'di |
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01-22-2009, 10:23 PM
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Re: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:09:31 -0800, in misc.health.alternative, RF
<RF[at]NoDen.con> wrote: - quote - > Peter Bowditch wrote:
You do know the LEDs use Hg in the production?> > "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 > > > > > > Subject: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 A press release from the > > > Swedish Ministry of Environment follows. > > > > > > http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/11459/a/118550 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Press release 15 January 2009 Ministry of the Environment > > > > > > > > > > > > Government bans all use of mercury in Sweden The Government today decided to > > > introduce a blanket ban on mercury. The ban means that the use of dental > > > amalgam in fillings will cease and that it will no longer be permitted to > > > place products containing mercury on the Swedish market. > > 3 Big Cheers for Sweden :-) > > Are you worrying that the mercury will NOT be > available for vaccinations? > > > There go the fluorescent lights. Up goes the electricity consumption. > > Wake up. Becoming available right now are lights > that have no mercury and are much more efficient > than fluorescent - called LEDs. > > Mercury is a toxin that will NOT be missed. -- Ak'toh'di |
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