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  #90  
Old 01-26-2009, 12:47 AM
Jan Drew
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Peter Bowditch wrote:

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> What would it be used for? It isn't needed or used in vaccines any more

Blatant lie.

http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm


  #89  
Old 01-25-2009, 09:39 AM
Peter Bowditch
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"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:

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>
> "Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname[at]ratbags.com> wrote:
>
> > "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> > > BTW, someone should let Quack Barrett know of the news.

> >
> > I have no idea who this is, so perhaps you should tell the person
> > yourself.

>
> I have and once again you are lying. You very well know who it is.


I know a Peter Barrett and a Dr Stephen Barrett. I do not know a Quack
Barrett.

If you know such a person and you believe that there is something he
or she should know, then you should tell him or her yourself.

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  #88  
Old 01-25-2009, 09:37 AM
Peter Bowditch
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"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:

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>
> "Kevysmom" <bluebunny8[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6f6c400b-fdf9-4924-b357-51000214321f[at]g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> LOL! Be my guest!
>
> Actually, Peter Bowditch should do it. As he has emailed him before.
> The Quack had *mercury amalgams* on his web site. Peter emailed him and it
> was quickly gone.


That's right, Jan. There was a mistake on his web site (the ridiculous
tautology "mercury amalgam") and he fixed the error when I pointed it
out to him.

You say that there is something he should know. Therefore you should
tell him

- quote -

> Two peas in a pod and two liars.

And where have I lied, Jan? Please be specific.


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  #87  
Old 01-25-2009, 09:34 AM
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"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:

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> All diversions deleted.
> Stick with the subject, please.
>


Go screw yourself with a rusty belaying pin.

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  #86  
Old 01-25-2009, 09:23 AM
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Mike <mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:

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> Peter Bowditch wrote:
> > Mike <mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
> > > It is not my job to determine what products should or should not be
> > > granted an exemption. But I have a hunch about what product you would
> > > like to see exempt: thimerosal.

> >
> > What would it be used for? It isn't needed or used in vaccines any
> > more

>
> Not true.
>
> You did not do your homework again, and again, I did it for you. This is
> the situation for the U.S. (but might be different in Sweden):
>
> "Today, all routinely recommended licensed pediatric vaccines that are
> currently being manufactured for the U.S. market, with the exception of
> influenza vaccine, contain no thimerosal or only trace amounts.
> Thimerosal preservative-free influenza vaccines are available, but in
> limited quantities. The total amount of inactivated influenza vaccine
> available without thimerosal as a preservative will continue to increase
> as manufacturing capabilities are expanded."
>
> http://www.cdc.gov/FLU/ABOUT/QA/thimerosal.htm
>
> So, it is used, and according to CDC it is still needed.


And the last flu vaccine I had had no mercury in it. I didn't ask - it
was the standard issue.

So what is it still needed for? And where in the CDC saying that
mercury-free vaccines are available does it mean that it is still
needed?

Please try to keep up.

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>
> , so unless there is another use for this fine antiseptic I don't
> > know why you think I would have any interest in it.
> >


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  #85  
Old 01-25-2009, 03:51 AM
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Default Re: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009

Peter Bowditch wrote:
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> Mike <mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
> > It is not my job to determine what products should or should not be
> > granted an exemption. But I have a hunch about what product you would
> > like to see exempt: thimerosal.

>
> What would it be used for? It isn't needed or used in vaccines any
> more


Not true.

You did not do your homework again, and again, I did it for you. This is
the situation for the U.S. (but might be different in Sweden):

"Today, all routinely recommended licensed pediatric vaccines that are
currently being manufactured for the U.S. market, with the exception of
influenza vaccine, contain no thimerosal or only trace amounts.
Thimerosal preservative-free influenza vaccines are available, but in
limited quantities. The total amount of inactivated influenza vaccine
available without thimerosal as a preservative will continue to increase
as manufacturing capabilities are expanded."

http://www.cdc.gov/FLU/ABOUT/QA/thimerosal.htm

So, it is used, and according to CDC it is still needed.

, so unless there is another use for this fine antiseptic I don't
- quote -

> know why you think I would have any interest in it.
>

  #84  
Old 01-25-2009, 02:04 AM
Jan Drew
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"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname[at]ratbags.com> wrote:

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> "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > BTW, someone should let Quack Barrett know of the news.

>
> I have no idea who this is, so perhaps you should tell the person
> yourself.


I have and once again you are lying. You very well know who it is.
- quote -

>
> --
> Peter Bowditch

  #83  
Old 01-25-2009, 02:03 AM
Jan Drew
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"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname[at]ratbags.com> wrote:

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> Mike <mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
>
> > Peter Bowditch wrote:
> > > Mike <mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Peter Bowditch wrote:
> > > > > Mike <Mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote:
> > > > > > > Mike <Mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote:
> > > > > > > > > "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 A press
> > > > > > > > > > release from the
> > > > > > > > > > Swedish Ministry of Environment follows.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/11459/a/118550
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Press release 15 January 2009 Ministry of the Environment
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Government bans all use of mercury in Sweden The Government today
> > > > > > > > > > decided to
> > > > > > > > > > introduce a blanket ban on mercury. The ban means that the use of
> > > > > > > > > > dental
> > > > > > > > > > amalgam in fillings will cease and that it will no longer be
> > > > > > > > > > permitted to
> > > > > > > > > > place products containing mercury on the Swedish market.
> > > > > > > > > There go the fluorescent lights. Up goes the electricity
> > > > > > > > > consumption.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Not likely. Quote: "The Swedish Chemicals Agency will be authorised
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > issue regulations on exceptions or grant exemptions in individual
> > > > > > > > cases." A fluorescent bulb contains on average 4 milligrams of
> > > > > > > > mercury.
> > > > > > > > A dental amalgam filling weighs on average 850 mg and contains
> > > > > > > > slightly
> > > > > > > > less than 50% mercury - that is, 100 times more than a fluorescent
> > > > > > > > bulb.
> > > > > > > > Looks like a prime candidate for such an exception.
> > > > > > > So the statement "it will no longer be permitted to place products
> > > > > > > containing mercury on the Swedish market" is not true?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Whoda thunk it?
> > > > > > Yes, there probably will be exemptions, didn't you get it?
> > > > > Of course - the words "it will no longer be permitted" always mean "it
> > > > > will no longer be permitted except when it will be permitted". Well,
> > > > > oxymorons like that are part of alternative logic so of course they
> > > > > also apply to alternative medicine believers.
> > > > Could not make up a better nonsense? Exemptions are part of many laws
> > > > in
> > > > may countries, never heard of them? Has nothing to do with alternative
> > > > or any other medicine.
> > >
> > > I didn't think you would understand the comparison. Just add it to all
> > > the other things you don't understand.
> > >
> > > So what exemptions would you like to see to the total ban which will
> > > mean that "it will no longer be permitted to place products containing
> > > mercury on the Swedish market"?

> >
> > It is not my job to determine what products should or should not be
> > granted an exemption. But I have a hunch about what product you would
> > like to see exempt: thimerosal.

>
> What would it be used for? It isn't needed or used in vaccines any
> more


Blatant lie.

http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm



  #82  
Old 01-25-2009, 01:29 AM
Jan Drew
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"Kevysmom" <bluebunny8[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6f6c400b-fdf9-4924-b357-51000214321f[at]g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
LOL! Be my guest!

Actually, Peter Bowditch should do it. As he has emailed him before.
The Quack had *mercury amalgams* on his web site. Peter emailed him and it
was quickly gone.
Two peas in a pod and two liars.


On Jan 23, 10:03 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> BTW, someone should let Quack Barrett know of the news.
>
> "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>
> news:Cavel.15003$c45.4029[at]nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Kevysmom" <bluebun...[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1a5dd862-e0e0-49a5-9b0c-ebaf945e0dc4[at]g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> > Sweden bans mercury fillings, But the United States being the greedy
> > country they are, Just give out warnings(This only happened because
> > the FDA was sued) for those who can afford the more expensive
> > alternative while our poor children are forced to be exposed to
> > mercury in the fillings.

>
> > metal fillings break, kids swallow pieces of mercury from thier
> > fillings all the time.

>
> > FDA warns about mercury fillings for children
> > Precautions also urged for pregnant women as agency mulls other limits

>
> > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25139198/

>
> > Very good, Donna.
> > The dangers of amalgams have been know for a long time.

>
> > http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Lhealthfraud2.htm

>
> > http://www.health.gov/environment/am...ppendixIII.htm

>
> > On Jan 20, 6:29 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


  #81  
Old 01-25-2009, 01:25 AM
Jan Drew
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All diversions deleted.
Stick with the subject, please.


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Old 01-24-2009, 12:00 PM
Peter Bowditch
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"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:

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> BTW, someone should let Quack Barrett know of the news.

I have no idea who this is, so perhaps you should tell the person
yourself.

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  #79  
Old 01-24-2009, 11:48 AM
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Mike <mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:

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> Peter Bowditch wrote:
> > Mike <mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Peter Bowditch wrote:
> > > > Mike <Mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote:
> > > > > > Mike <Mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote:
> > > > > > > > "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 A press release from the
> > > > > > > > > Swedish Ministry of Environment follows.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/11459/a/118550
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Press release 15 January 2009 Ministry of the Environment
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Government bans all use of mercury in Sweden The Government today decided to
> > > > > > > > > introduce a blanket ban on mercury. The ban means that the use of dental
> > > > > > > > > amalgam in fillings will cease and that it will no longer be permitted to
> > > > > > > > > place products containing mercury on the Swedish market.
> > > > > > > > There go the fluorescent lights. Up goes the electricity consumption.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not likely. Quote: "The Swedish Chemicals Agency will be authorised to
> > > > > > > issue regulations on exceptions or grant exemptions in individual
> > > > > > > cases." A fluorescent bulb contains on average 4 milligrams of mercury.
> > > > > > > A dental amalgam filling weighs on average 850 mg and contains slightly
> > > > > > > less than 50% mercury - that is, 100 times more than a fluorescent bulb.
> > > > > > > Looks like a prime candidate for such an exception.
> > > > > > So the statement "it will no longer be permitted to place products
> > > > > > containing mercury on the Swedish market" is not true?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Whoda thunk it?
> > > > > Yes, there probably will be exemptions, didn't you get it?
> > > > Of course - the words "it will no longer be permitted" always mean "it
> > > > will no longer be permitted except when it will be permitted". Well,
> > > > oxymorons like that are part of alternative logic so of course they
> > > > also apply to alternative medicine believers.
> > > Could not make up a better nonsense? Exemptions are part of many laws in
> > > may countries, never heard of them? Has nothing to do with alternative
> > > or any other medicine.

> >
> > I didn't think you would understand the comparison. Just add it to all
> > the other things you don't understand.
> >
> > So what exemptions would you like to see to the total ban which will
> > mean that "it will no longer be permitted to place products containing
> > mercury on the Swedish market"?

>
> It is not my job to determine what products should or should not be
> granted an exemption. But I have a hunch about what product you would
> like to see exempt: thimerosal.


What would it be used for? It isn't needed or used in vaccines any
more, so unless there is another use for this fine antiseptic I don't
know why you think I would have any interest in it.

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>
> >
> > > > > > > > There goes non-hydroponic timber. Up goes the price of houses, paper
> > > > > > > > and other timber-based products.
> > > > > > > What??? Timber contains mercury?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The only Google links on "mercury in timber" were about car insurance
> > > > > > > for a new Mercury in Timber, Oregon or about price for a Mercury in
> > > > > > > Timber Lake, South Dakota. Thanks for making my day.
> > > > > > You do know what is the major source of mercury put into the
> > > > > > atmosphere in the US, don't you?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here's a hint. Think smoke. Think water bombing.
> > > > > You are wrong again. The source of mercury in a forest fire is not tree
> > > > > trunks. It is foliage and ground litter (because much of it is
> > > > > decomposed foliage). Do you homework next time.
> > > > Did you stop to think for a minute where the foliage and ground litter
> > > > came from? Here's a hint - trees.
> > > But not that parts of trees that are sold as timber. If you have any
> > > evidence of mercury in timber (real evidence, not this BS) please
> > > present it.

> >
> > Let's see. There is mercury in the leaves - you have stated that
> > yourself. It can only have come from the soil.

>
> Here is a link for you: "Accumulation of atmospheric mercury in forest
> foliage".
>
> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...19c38612729313
>
> Got it? It comes from the air, not from the soil. Too complicated for
> you, I guess.
>
> So how does the mercury
> > get from the soil to the leaves? Telekinesis? Now what are those
> > things called that go between the soil and the leaves? Oh, that's
> > right - trunks. Where the timber comes from.

>
> I repeat: do your homework before accidentally exposing your ignorance.
>
> >
> > > > No, I didn't think so, but thanks for admitting that you know what the
> > > > major source of mercury pollution of the environment is.
> > > >
> > > > > > > Bravo, Sweden.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <snip remaining knee-jerk>

> >


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  #78  
Old 01-24-2009, 04:07 AM
Mike
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Peter Bowditch wrote:
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> Mike <mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
>
> > Bob Officer wrote:
> > > On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 05:30:56 GMT, in misc.health.alternative, Mike
> > > <Mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Peter Bowditch wrote:
> > > > > Mike <Mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote:
> > > > > > > "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Subject: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 A press release from the
> > > > > > > > Swedish Ministry of Environment follows.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/11459/a/118550
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Press release 15 January 2009 Ministry of the Environment
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Government bans all use of mercury in Sweden The Government today decided to
> > > > > > > > introduce a blanket ban on mercury. The ban means that the use of dental
> > > > > > > > amalgam in fillings will cease and that it will no longer be permitted to
> > > > > > > > place products containing mercury on the Swedish market.
> > > > > > > There go the fluorescent lights. Up goes the electricity consumption.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Not likely. Quote: "The Swedish Chemicals Agency will be authorised to
> > > > > > issue regulations on exceptions or grant exemptions in individual
> > > > > > cases." A fluorescent bulb contains on average 4 milligrams of mercury.
> > > > > > A dental amalgam filling weighs on average 850 mg and contains slightly
> > > > > > less than 50% mercury - that is, 100 times more than a fluorescent bulb.
> > > > > > Looks like a prime candidate for such an exception.
> > > > > So the statement "it will no longer be permitted to place products
> > > > > containing mercury on the Swedish market" is not true?
> > > > >
> > > > > Whoda thunk it?
> > > > Yes, there probably will be exemptions, didn't you get it?
> > > Weasel wording...
> > >
> > > > > > > There goes non-hydroponic timber. Up goes the price of houses, paper
> > > > > > > and other timber-based products.
> > > > > > What??? Timber contains mercury?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The only Google links on "mercury in timber" were about car insurance
> > > > > > for a new Mercury in Timber, Oregon or about price for a Mercury in
> > > > > > Timber Lake, South Dakota. Thanks for making my day.
> > > > > You do know what is the major source of mercury put into the
> > > > > atmosphere in the US, don't you?
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's a hint. Think smoke. Think water bombing.
> > > > You are wrong again. The source of mercury in a forest fire is not tree
> > > > trunks. It is foliage and ground litter (because much of it is
> > > > decomposed foliage). Do you homework next time.
> > > Just were does the decomposing material come from? Lets apply a
> > > little logic here...
> > >
> > > Could it be from the trees? Plant life, like animal life tends to
> > > concentrate some minerals.
> > >

> > The point was, if you still remember, timber. Tree trunks, that is. Not
> > foliage, live or decomposed.

>
> Those would be the trunks which aren't between the ground and the
> foliage, I take it?
>
> Do you ever stop to think? (And no, I am not trying to start another
> rhetorical question cascade.)
>


The answer is in another subthread. Tree trunks are indeed between the
ground and foliage but mercury comes from the air. Hard to imagine, is it?

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> > > Why is it that shellfish and fish downstream from a paper plant have
> > > larger amounts of mercury, than those upstream?
> > >

> > What is your implication? Is it different from other types of plants?
> >
> > > > > > Bravo, Sweden.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > <snip remaining knee-jerk>
> > >

>

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Old 01-24-2009, 04:05 AM
Mike
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Peter Bowditch wrote:
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> Mike <mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
>
> > Peter Bowditch wrote:
> > > Mike <Mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Peter Bowditch wrote:
> > > > > Mike <Mike[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Peter Bowditch wrote:
> > > > > > > "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Subject: Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009 A press release from the
> > > > > > > > Swedish Ministry of Environment follows.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/11459/a/118550
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Press release 15 January 2009 Ministry of the Environment
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Government bans all use of mercury in Sweden The Government today decided to
> > > > > > > > introduce a blanket ban on mercury. The ban means that the use of dental
> > > > > > > > amalgam in fillings will cease and that it will no longer be permitted to
> > > > > > > > place products containing mercury on the Swedish market.
> > > > > > > There go the fluorescent lights. Up goes the electricity consumption.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Not likely. Quote: "The Swedish Chemicals Agency will be authorised to
> > > > > > issue regulations on exceptions or grant exemptions in individual
> > > > > > cases." A fluorescent bulb contains on average 4 milligrams of mercury.
> > > > > > A dental amalgam filling weighs on average 850 mg and contains slightly
> > > > > > less than 50% mercury - that is, 100 times more than a fluorescent bulb.
> > > > > > Looks like a prime candidate for such an exception.
> > > > > So the statement "it will no longer be permitted to place products
> > > > > containing mercury on the Swedish market" is not true?
> > > > >
> > > > > Whoda thunk it?
> > > > Yes, there probably will be exemptions, didn't you get it?
> > > Of course - the words "it will no longer be permitted" always mean "it
> > > will no longer be permitted except when it will be permitted". Well,
> > > oxymorons like that are part of alternative logic so of course they
> > > also apply to alternative medicine believers.

> > Could not make up a better nonsense? Exemptions are part of many laws in
> > may countries, never heard of them? Has nothing to do with alternative
> > or any other medicine.

>
> I didn't think you would understand the comparison. Just add it to all
> the other things you don't understand.
>
> So what exemptions would you like to see to the total ban which will
> mean that "it will no longer be permitted to place products containing
> mercury on the Swedish market"?


It is not my job to determine what products should or should not be
granted an exemption. But I have a hunch about what product you would
like to see exempt: thimerosal.

- quote -

>
> > > > > > > There goes non-hydroponic timber. Up goes the price of houses, paper
> > > > > > > and other timber-based products.
> > > > > > What??? Timber contains mercury?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The only Google links on "mercury in timber" were about car insurance
> > > > > > for a new Mercury in Timber, Oregon or about price for a Mercury in
> > > > > > Timber Lake, South Dakota. Thanks for making my day.
> > > > > You do know what is the major source of mercury put into the
> > > > > atmosphere in the US, don't you?
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's a hint. Think smoke. Think water bombing.
> > > > You are wrong again. The source of mercury in a forest fire is not tree
> > > > trunks. It is foliage and ground litter (because much of it is
> > > > decomposed foliage). Do you homework next time.
> > > Did you stop to think for a minute where the foliage and ground litter
> > > came from? Here's a hint - trees.

> > But not that parts of trees that are sold as timber. If you have any
> > evidence of mercury in timber (real evidence, not this BS) please
> > present it.

>
> Let's see. There is mercury in the leaves - you have stated that
> yourself. It can only have come from the soil.


Here is a link for you: "Accumulation of atmospheric mercury in forest
foliage".

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...19c38612729313

Got it? It comes from the air, not from the soil. Too complicated for
you, I guess.

So how does the mercury
- quote -

> get from the soil to the leaves? Telekinesis? Now what are those
> things called that go between the soil and the leaves? Oh, that's
> right - trunks. Where the timber comes from.


I repeat: do your homework before accidentally exposing your ignorance.

- quote -

>
> > > No, I didn't think so, but thanks for admitting that you know what the
> > > major source of mercury pollution of the environment is.
> > >
> > > > > > Bravo, Sweden.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > <snip remaining knee-jerk>

>

  #76  
Old 01-24-2009, 02:35 AM
Kevysmom
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LOL! Be my guest!


On Jan 23, 10:03*pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- quote -

> BTW, someone should let Quack Barrett know of the news.
>
> "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>
> news:Cavel.15003$c45.4029[at]nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Kevysmom" <bluebun...[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1a5dd862-e0e0-49a5-9b0c-ebaf945e0dc4[at]g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> > Sweden bans mercury fillings, But the United States being the greedy
> > country they are, Just give out warnings(This only happened because
> > the FDA was sued) for those who can afford the more expensive
> > alternative while our poor children are forced to be exposed to
> > mercury in the fillings.

>
> > metal fillings break, kids swallow pieces of mercury from thier
> > fillings all the time.

>
> > FDA warns about mercury fillings for children
> > Precautions also urged for pregnant women as agency mulls other limits

>
> > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25139198/

>
> > Very good, Donna.
> > The dangers of amalgams have been know for a long time.

>
> > http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Lhealthfraud2.htm

>
> > http://www.health.gov/environment/am...ppendixIII.htm

>
> > On Jan 20, 6:29 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


  #75  
Old 01-24-2009, 02:03 AM
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BTW, someone should let Quack Barrett know of the news.


"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:Cavel.15003$c45.4029[at]nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...
- quote -

>
> "Kevysmom" <bluebunny8[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1a5dd862-e0e0-49a5-9b0c-ebaf945e0dc4[at]g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> Sweden bans mercury fillings, But the United States being the greedy
> country they are, Just give out warnings(This only happened because
> the FDA was sued) for those who can afford the more expensive
> alternative while our poor children are forced to be exposed to
> mercury in the fillings.
>
>
>
> metal fillings break, kids swallow pieces of mercury from thier
> fillings all the time.
>
>
>
> FDA warns about mercury fillings for children
> Precautions also urged for pregnant women as agency mulls other limits
>
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25139198/
>
> Very good, Donna.
> The dangers of amalgams have been know for a long time.
>
> http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Lhealthfraud2.htm
>
> http://www.health.gov/environment/am...ppendixIII.htm
>
>
> On Jan 20, 6:29 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009
> >

>
>


  #74  
Old 01-24-2009, 01:38 AM
Jan Drew
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"Kevysmom" <bluebunny8[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1a5dd862-e0e0-49a5-9b0c-ebaf945e0dc4[at]g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
Sweden bans mercury fillings, But the United States being the greedy
country they are, Just give out warnings(This only happened because
the FDA was sued) for those who can afford the more expensive
alternative while our poor children are forced to be exposed to
mercury in the fillings.



metal fillings break, kids swallow pieces of mercury from thier
fillings all the time.



FDA warns about mercury fillings for children
Precautions also urged for pregnant women as agency mulls other limits


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25139198/

Very good, Donna.
The dangers of amalgams have been know for a long time.

http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Lhealthfraud2.htm

http://www.health.gov/environment/am...ppendixIII.htm


On Jan 20, 6:29 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- quote -

> Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009
>



  #73  
Old 01-23-2009, 05:10 PM
Kevysmom
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Sweden bans mercury fillings, But the United States being the greedy
country they are, Just give out warnings(This only happened because
the FDA was sued) for those who can afford the more expensive
alternative while our poor children are forced to be exposed to
mercury in the fillings.



metal fillings break, kids swallow pieces of mercury from thier
fillings all the time.



FDA warns about mercury fillings for children
Precautions also urged for pregnant women as agency mulls other limits


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25139198/


On Jan 20, 6:29*pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> Sweden bans amalgam effective June 1 2009
>



  #72  
Old 01-23-2009, 03:45 PM
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vaughn wrote:
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> "Linda" <Indomitable2[at]netzero.com> wrote in message
> news:eff32db8-8656-4bd8-a346-88a98c475287[at]q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 21, 9:37 pm, Mike <M...[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
> > What I know is flourescent lighting induces temporal lobe epilepsy,

>
> Yes, but where does your "2 %" figure come from? You would think that if
> fluorescent lighting induces seizures in 2% of the population, I would have
> met at least one of those poor stricken folks in the last 67 years.
>
> > and, the members of the various criminal cartels monopolizing health
> > care in the US have conspired to suppress that fact.

>
> Absolute tinfoil-hat nonsense! The idea of lighting as a seizure trigger
> has been commonly known at least since my childhood; which is when I first
> heard of the idea. What makes you think that there is some grand
> conspiracy?
>
> Vaughn



x-posting to misc.health.alternative removed

Vaughn--

This is not from Linda, but from Carole, who has also commented on this
topic.

http://www.conspiracee.com/

Just a taste should do ya.

Steve



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>
>



--
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http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001
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Old 01-23-2009, 02:00 PM
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On Jan 23, 6:17*am, "vaughn" <vaughnsimonHATESS...[at]att.FAKE.net>
wrote:
- quote -

> "Linda" <Indomitab...[at]netzero.com> wrote in message
>
> news:eff32db8-8656-4bd8-a346-88a98c475287[at]q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 21, 9:37 pm, Mike <M...[at]xyz.xxx> wrote:
>
> > What I know is flourescent lighting induces temporal lobe epilepsy,

>
> *
> fluorescent lighting induces


temporal lobe epilepsy in 2% of the population

 

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