Another Flipper Question

#8 01-31-2009, 06:17 PM

"New B." <newbie[at]bix.nex> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:03:47 -0500, "MarieD" <abc[at]123.com> wrote:
> > It took me a few weeks to get used to wearing a flipper and
> > speaking/eating
> > normally. I also felt like there was this huge rock in the roof of my
> > mouth.
> > Also the thing gives me a headache from where it hooks onto the back
> > teeth(it is the replacement for my two front teeth actually so there is no
> > possible way I'd go in public without it). I've had it going on 9 years
> > now,
> > but in the next few weeks I am getting a bridge(and I am sooo thrilled,
> > yet
> > sooo terrified). It really needs to be thick enough not to snap and break
> > under pressure. It goes through alot of pressure, with your teeth biting
> > on
> > it, so it has to be able to hold up.
> > Marie
>
>
> Removable or fixed ?

It is removable.
Marie

#7 01-31-2009, 06:06 PM

New B. wrote:
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> On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:57:35 GMT, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
> <bornfeldmung[at]dentaltwins.com> wrote:
>
> > > Flippers are not built for function.
> > > It's for Show, not for Go.
> > >
> > > Kinda like a D-45
> >
> > I'm a little guy. I cain't hardly wrap my arms around a dred.
> >
> > Steve
>
>
> How about an acoustic tele ?

They made acoustic telecasters?
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>
> Ever given Ovation a try ?
> Don't particularly like them but they are very rugged
> and project well but, I don't like the lack of back
> resonance/vibration.

I've never played one. There was a time maybe in the early '80s when
it seemed like the only acoustic guitars you heard in studio recordings
were Ovations. They had a particular sound, I guess the audio guys
liked them--not boomy. Over at the acoustic guitar newsgroup, it's
almost as taboo to speak about Ovations as it is to speak about banjos.
Taylors get ribbed pretty good too.

Steve

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>
> The thin ones with a cutaway are kewl.
>
> The pickups are also excellent and sound
> good through a PA or an "acoustic" amp.

--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

#6 01-31-2009, 05:44 PM

On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:03:47 -0500, "MarieD" <abc[at]123.com> wrote:

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> "goldbanjo" <goldbanjo[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bb710bcf-7ed1-4e44-97ee-7820d2be548c[at]v4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> > long time. My question is, is there another kind of flipper with which
> > people can talk more normally? I read that Valplasts have problems and
> > googled this to death...there doesn't seem to be many options but you
> > would know. I would almost rather have a tooth missing than talk with
> > this awful lisp on certain words. This just feels so cumbersome in my
> > mouth and I would think there is better technology these days. I don't
> > have to sing...it isn't my profession but I perform with informal
> > groups and it's my fun and passion. What would you do with a patient
> > who's a star, I mean if Tony Bennett came to you, someone who really
> > needs to sound right, while they await an implant or bridge?
>
> It took me a few weeks to get used to wearing a flipper and speaking/eating
> normally. I also felt like there was this huge rock in the roof of my mouth.
> Also the thing gives me a headache from where it hooks onto the back
> teeth(it is the replacement for my two front teeth actually so there is no
> possible way I'd go in public without it). I've had it going on 9 years now,
> but in the next few weeks I am getting a bridge(and I am sooo thrilled, yet
> sooo terrified). It really needs to be thick enough not to snap and break
> under pressure. It goes through alot of pressure, with your teeth biting on
> it, so it has to be able to hold up.
> Marie

Removable or fixed ?

#5 01-31-2009, 05:44 PM

On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:57:35 GMT, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
<bornfeldmung[at]dentaltwins.com> wrote:

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> > Flippers are not built for function.
> > It's for Show, not for Go.
> >
> > Kinda like a D-45
>
>
> I'm a little guy. I cain't hardly wrap my arms around a dred.
>
> Steve

How about an acoustic tele ?

Ever given Ovation a try ?
Don't particularly like them but they are very rugged
and project well but, I don't like the lack of back
resonance/vibration.

The thin ones with a cutaway are kewl.

The pickups are also excellent and sound
good through a PA or an "acoustic" amp.

#4 01-31-2009, 02:57 PM

new[at]newb.org wrote:
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> On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:47:45 -0800 (PST), goldbanjo
> <goldbanjo[at]gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Wore a flipper for ~2.5 years for a number of reasons.
>
>
> > Thanks but can I find out where I an have something thinner/smaller
> > but strong made?
>
> Am sorry but it's too detailed to expound here.
> Ask your GP to thin the bulk.
>
>
> > I don't care about the money anymore, unless it's
> > really exorbitant. It will be 8 months with this flipper and if I had
> > known that it would be this thick,
>
> Anything I could tell you here would be worthless information.
> It just doesn't translate on usenet, sorry.
>
> > The tooth looks great, perfect match but if there's an
> > alternative, any information from anyone would be appreciated.
>
>
> Ask your dentist to thin the appliance, especially the posterior
> border. Flippers do need a certain thickness for resistance to
> breakage.
>
> > If you went through that many and still didn't wear it except in public, it
> > doesn't sound hopeful.
>
> Was experimenting with design, it was educational.
>
> Flippers are not built for function.
> It's for Show, not for Go.
>
> Kinda like a D-45

I'm a little guy. I cain't hardly wrap my arms around a dred.

Steve

--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

#3 01-31-2009, 02:03 PM

"goldbanjo" <goldbanjo[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:bb710bcf-7ed1-4e44-97ee-7820d2be548c[at]v4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
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> long time. My question is, is there another kind of flipper with which
> people can talk more normally? I read that Valplasts have problems and
> googled this to death...there doesn't seem to be many options but you
> would know. I would almost rather have a tooth missing than talk with
> this awful lisp on certain words. This just feels so cumbersome in my
> mouth and I would think there is better technology these days. I don't
> have to sing...it isn't my profession but I perform with informal
> groups and it's my fun and passion. What would you do with a patient
> who's a star, I mean if Tony Bennett came to you, someone who really
> needs to sound right, while they await an implant or bridge?

It took me a few weeks to get used to wearing a flipper and speaking/eating
normally. I also felt like there was this huge rock in the roof of my mouth.
Also the thing gives me a headache from where it hooks onto the back
teeth(it is the replacement for my two front teeth actually so there is no
possible way I'd go in public without it). I've had it going on 9 years now,
but in the next few weeks I am getting a bridge(and I am sooo thrilled, yet
sooo terrified). It really needs to be thick enough not to snap and break
under pressure. It goes through alot of pressure, with your teeth biting on
it, so it has to be able to hold up.
Marie

#2 01-31-2009, 01:31 AM

On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:47:45 -0800 (PST), goldbanjo
<goldbanjo[at]gmail.com> wrote:

- quote -

> > Wore a flipper for ~2.5 years for a number of reasons.

- quote -

> Thanks but can I find out where I an have something thinner/smaller
> but strong made?

Am sorry but it's too detailed to expound here.
Ask your GP to thin the bulk.

- quote -

> I don't care about the money anymore, unless it's
> really exorbitant. It will be 8 months with this flipper and if I had
> known that it would be this thick,

Anything I could tell you here would be worthless information.
It just doesn't translate on usenet, sorry.

- quote -

> The tooth looks great, perfect match but if there's an
> alternative, any information from anyone would be appreciated.

Ask your dentist to thin the appliance, especially the posterior
border. Flippers do need a certain thickness for resistance to
breakage.

- quote -

> If you went through that many and still didn't wear it except in public, it
> doesn't sound hopeful.

Was experimenting with design, it was educational.

Flippers are not built for function.
It's for Show, not for Go.

Kinda like a D-45

#1 01-30-2009, 11:47 PM

On Jan 30, 7:04*pm, wubba bubba <wu...[at]bubba.com> wrote:
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> On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:14:45 -0800 (PST), goldbanjo
>
>
>
> <goldba...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> > I am still healing from bone graft and extraction of 11, 3 weeks ago
> > so no rush to wear the flipper but I need advice. I have the hard
> > acrylic and it goes around from tooth 13 (14 missing) to tooth 3 (2
> > and 1 are gone). I don't mind the wires showing but I really can't
> > talk with this thing. I don't mind telling friends the truth but I
> > sing publicly and this is not going to work well. I have to wait 4
> > months before the implant is started and another few months. That's a
> > long time. My question is, is there another kind of flipper with which
> > people can talk more normally? I read that Valplasts have problems and
> > googled this to death...there doesn't seem to be many options but you
> > would know. I would almost rather have a tooth missing than talk with
> > this awful lisp on certain words. This just feels so cumbersome in my
> > mouth and I would think there is better technology these days. I don't
> > have to sing...it isn't my profession but I perform with informal
> > groups and it's my fun and passion. What would you do with a patient
> > who's a star, I mean if Tony Bennett came to you, someone who really
> > needs to sound right, while they await an implant or bridge?
>
> Yer kinda new here so you are unlikely to know that I lost #8 many
> years ago and eventually had an implant placed.
>
> Wore a flipper for ~2.5 years for a number of reasons.
Thanks but can I find out where I an have something thinner/smaller

but strong made? I don't care about the money anymore, unless it's
really exorbitant. It will be 8 months with this flipper and if I had
known that it would be this thick, I would have done some research.
The time from treatment plan (this tooth has to come out, from OS) to
taking the impression for the flipper was overnight, I had the
extraction the next day so I just went along with what my general
dentist said. The tooth looks great, perfect match but if there's an
alternative, any information from anyone would be appreciated. If you
went through that many and still didn't wear it except in public, it
doesn't sound hopeful.
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>
> Had about 10 or 12 of them made, some from the lab, some
> by me, some with clasps, some without, etc.... blah blah blah.
>
> In a nutshell, I really learned what the design of *a flipper should
> be and shared my experiences with my removable prosthetics lab
> tech. *It made for a much better experience for my patients needing
> a temporary esthetic (i.e. anterior) solution.
>
> It is much too involved to go into here, but suffice to say, I didn't
> wear it unless in public. It really decreased my restaurant visits,
> but then again, and spent less bucks in the process ! *<hehe> ;-)
>
> Will tell you about a singular bar where I imbibed in another missive.

01-30-2009, 11:04 PM

On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:14:45 -0800 (PST), goldbanjo
<goldbanjo[at]gmail.com> wrote:

- quote -

> I am still healing from bone graft and extraction of 11, 3 weeks ago
> so no rush to wear the flipper but I need advice. I have the hard
> acrylic and it goes around from tooth 13 (14 missing) to tooth 3 (2
> and 1 are gone). I don't mind the wires showing but I really can't
> talk with this thing. I don't mind telling friends the truth but I
> sing publicly and this is not going to work well. I have to wait 4
> months before the implant is started and another few months. That's a
> long time. My question is, is there another kind of flipper with which
> people can talk more normally? I read that Valplasts have problems and
> googled this to death...there doesn't seem to be many options but you
> would know. I would almost rather have a tooth missing than talk with
> this awful lisp on certain words. This just feels so cumbersome in my
> mouth and I would think there is better technology these days. I don't
> have to sing...it isn't my profession but I perform with informal
> groups and it's my fun and passion. What would you do with a patient
> who's a star, I mean if Tony Bennett came to you, someone who really
> needs to sound right, while they await an implant or bridge?

Yer kinda new here so you are unlikely to know that I lost #8 many
years ago and eventually had an implant placed.

Wore a flipper for ~2.5 years for a number of reasons.

Had about 10 or 12 of them made, some from the lab, some
by me, some with clasps, some without, etc.... blah blah blah.

In a nutshell, I really learned what the design of a flipper should
be and shared my experiences with my removable prosthetics lab
tech. It made for a much better experience for my patients needing
a temporary esthetic (i.e. anterior) solution.

It is much too involved to go into here, but suffice to say, I didn't
wear it unless in public. It really decreased my restaurant visits,
but then again, and spent less bucks in the process ! <hehe> ;-)

Will tell you about a singular bar where I imbibed in another missive.

#-1 01-30-2009, 06:14 PM

I am still healing from bone graft and extraction of 11, 3 weeks ago
so no rush to wear the flipper but I need advice. I have the hard
acrylic and it goes around from tooth 13 (14 missing) to tooth 3 (2
and 1 are gone). I don't mind the wires showing but I really can't
talk with this thing. I don't mind telling friends the truth but I
sing publicly and this is not going to work well. I have to wait 4
months before the implant is started and another few months. That's a
long time. My question is, is there another kind of flipper with which
people can talk more normally? I read that Valplasts have problems and
googled this to death...there doesn't seem to be many options but you
would know. I would almost rather have a tooth missing than talk with
this awful lisp on certain words. This just feels so cumbersome in my
mouth and I would think there is better technology these days. I don't
have to sing...it isn't my profession but I perform with informal
groups and it's my fun and passion. What would you do with a patient
who's a star, I mean if Tony Bennett came to you, someone who really
needs to sound right, while they await an implant or bridge?

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