On 21 Sep 2004 13:45:45 -0700, clintonz[at]prodigy.net (Clinton C
Zimmerman) wrote:

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They make vaccines from old fillings I hear .....


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Well, the subject of the thread and the point of Infowars post was
the mercury in fillings. Why nitpick and attack based on a vague
reference to vaccines in the last sentence of IW's post.
This thread is being crossposted in Dental. Why don't you state you
position on amalgam, if you want to have a contructive dicussion in
this thread.

On 21 Sep 2004 11:34:34 GMT, chuckmsrd[at]aol.com (ChuckMSRD) wrote:

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You forgot death by amalgam, a terrible condition still present in the
United States ..... well, according to some!

Joel

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Three things are certain in life. Death, Taxes, and the aforementioned.

Chuck

On 21 Sep 2004 05:28:21 GMT, jdrew63929[at]aol.com (Jan) wrote:

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Jan wrote,

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REPLY:

OK, I get what you are saying but how you are saying it is strange!

Joel


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OK, the ADA does not permit the use of vaccines as dental fillings
.........


Joel


On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 03:48:28 GMT, wright[at]clam.prodigy.net (David
Wright) wrote:

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Well, no they were actually your usual insulting.

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Jan

In article <a4025728.0409192116.3049f70b[at]posting.google.com> ,
Clinton C Zimmerman <clintonz[at]prodigy.net> wrote:
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I didn't say *anything* about amalgam, you dimwit. My comments were
restricted to the area of vaccines.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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I had trouble getting it, also can't click on the hyperlinks, but what is
readable is indeed very informative.

Which one is it on the toxicteeth URL??

Maybe, can read it all from there??

Of course the dentists here are of the *I-don't-want-to-be-informed-atitude*

Thanks Clinton.

Jan

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Yeah, right, we see how eager the dentists on smd are to stop using amalgams.

As for Joel, he remains an idiot.

Jan

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I admit I haven't been following the vaccine thread so I don't know
who said what, when.

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When you suggest that concerns about amalgam aren't justified your
attacks are fallicious. Of course you can post whatever you want.
It's a free internet.

Once again ,you avoided commenting on the offical European report
on amalgam. I'll post it again.

http://www.toxicteeth.org/Berlinbilaga.doc


Notice how all the "critics" of Jan and amalgam have suddenly fallen
silent when asked to respond to this.

Joel M. Eichen <joeleichen[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<4i2ej05atthv8egdgg70ovrt691fsc1u67[at]4ax.com> ...
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The only thing the EPA has done was to collect $$$ from dentists for
permits
same with the city waste.
So now to compensate for the cost of doing dentistry dentists have
increased their fees to pay for these permits. Congratulations on
increasing the cost of health care for everyone. By waiting your
problem would have disappeared on its own now that dentists are
switching to composite.



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In article <a4025728.0409170943.737821a9[at]posting.google.com> ,
Clinton C Zimmerman <clintonz[at]prodigy.net> wrote:
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Note the last sentence of the first paragraph, you illit.

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All childhood vaccines are now available in the US in thimerosal-free
versions. So you're your probably wrong.

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Ooh, an insult from you. How stinging.

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I have the right to criticize someone who posts bullshit. Are you
suggesting that I don't?

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

wright[at]clam.prodigy.net (David Wright) wrote in message news:<3xt2d.3653$Qv5.2969[at]newssvr33.news.prodigy.com> ...
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? Where there any assertions about vaccines in this thread that I missed?

The point of concern is probably the Hg content of vaccines.


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Your mind is like a steel trap. "Once it closes it remains shut forever".

I don't know what makes you think you have the right to attack people, when
for example it is well known amalgam is the largest source of Hg in
the human population. Why don't you read this and try to formulate a
rational response (The WHO numbers should be 3-17 ug not 3-7).
I predict you will make some shallow excuse not to respond when it finally
dawns on you that your ego is much larger than your brain.


http://www.toxicteeth.org/Berlinbilaga.doc

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http://www.toxicteeth.org/

In article <NICdnXKsHcSd-dfcRVn-rg[at]speakeasy.net> , InfoWars <stop spam> wrote:
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Always a pleasure to hear from anonymous top-posting cretins who make
nonsensical assertions about vaccines, the AMA, and so on.

If you actually had any *knowledge* about anything, you might be of
some significance.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)





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Only in our mad-hatter world where greedy corporations run amok could we
have bans on mercury everywhere but in our mouths. Remove amalgam from the
mouth, it becomes toxic waste. Leave it in, no problem. At least in
California, dentists must provide warnings to pregnant women about the
potential hazards of mercury in the dentist's office. The ADA cares more
about profits than their patients' health. Same goes for the AMA and toxic
vaccines forced on infants.

"ta" <ta33[at]bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:j8vZc.3963$Np2.654[at]bignews4.bellsouth.net...
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On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 22:15:20 -0400, "ta" <ta33[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:

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YUP, why listen to the FDA, the CDC, the USPHS, the post office and
the dental schools ......?

Listen to the pitchfork/scythe crowd!

JOEL

On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 22:15:20 -0400, "ta" <ta33[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:

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Not exactly news there Bro .........


We have had this going on since 1839!


JOEL

"Group pushes ban on mercury dental fillings
Gregory B. Hladky , Capitol Bureau Chief, New Haven Register, 9/1/2004

HARTFORD < A bipartisan coalition of lawmakers and environmentalists called
Tuesday for enforcement of a new law they say bans dental fillings that
include mercury, which they warn pose environmental and health risks.

But a spokesman for the Connecticut State Dental Association said
traditional dental fillings containing mercury are safe for patients and
pose no environmental risks as a result of new waste disposal safeguards.

The anti-mercury coalition disagrees, and filed a petition Tuesday with the
state Department of Environmental Protection to force that agency to
prohibit the use of mercury in dental fillings.

DEP spokesman Matthew Fritz said his agency interprets the new law as
exempting dental fillings from a general ban on mercury.

"This is the first day of making our mouths and our environment
mercury-free," said state Rep. Richard Roy, D-Milford.

"Mercury is one of the major public health threats in our nation today,"
said state Attorney General Richard Blumenthal, who spoke in support of the
group¹s action. "Mercury is a neurotoxin. S There is no safe level of
mercury in the environment."

Mark Breiner, a Trumbull dentist and president of the International
Association of Oral Medicine & Toxicology, said there are many safe
substitutes for the so-called "silver" fillings, which include mercury and
several other elements.

"I haven¹t placed a mercury filling in over 25 years," Breiner said at a
news conference at the Legislative Office Building.

But Michael Egan, a Hartford dentist and past president of the Connecticut
State Dental Association, said this state is already dealing with the
potential problem of dental mercury entering the waste stream.

Egan said the new legislation and state environmental safeguards now require
Connecticut dentists to use special filtering and waste disposal techniques
to prevent mercury pollution.

Also, Egan disputed claims that traditional mercury fillings are potentially
hazardous to patients.

"Once it (mercury) is combined with other components, it¹s inert and doesn¹t
give off any gas," Egan said.

Egan acknowledged there are a variety of other materials without mercury
that are used for dental fillings, but said mercury fillings remain
medically useful for some dental applications.

Fritz said the DEP determined that mercury fillings were not banned in the
new law, which took effect July 1, based on legislative debate and history
when the measure passed in 2002.

Connecticut is among 21 states that have been found to have unsafe levels of
mercury in its waters and it is estimated that 55 percent of fish in this
state are unsafe to eat because of mercury, Blumenthal said.

But while he agreed that mercury pollution from dental fillings is a
significant problem, Blumenthal said most mercury in Connecticut waters
comes from air pollution produced by Midwestern power-generating plants.

Gregory B. Hladky can be contacted at ghladky[at]nhregister.com or at (860)
524-0719."