Tufts University School of Dental Medicine Student Dental Clinic

#6 11-16-2005, 03:16 PM

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:11:03 GMT, Mark & Steven Bornfeld <bornfeldmung[at]dentaltwins.com> wrote:

- quote -

> > At the Student Dental Clinic of Tufts University School of Dental
> > Medicine the instructing dentists move from one patient to another
> > patient and back and forth again not washing between patients.
>
> That's OK--if they don't touch the patients!
>
> Steve

Or any of the instrumentation.

Changing gloves perhaps ?
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#5 11-16-2005, 02:11 PM

don warner saklad wrote:
- quote -

> Thank you Mark Bornfeld ! Thank you Steven Bornfeld !
>
> Good question! Would you have any other ideas regarding that point or
> related ideas?
>
> At the Student Dental Clinic of Tufts University School of Dental
> Medicine the instructing dentists move from one patient to another
> patient and back and forth again not washing between patients.

That's OK--if they don't touch the patients!

Steve

--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

#4 11-15-2005, 09:27 PM

The correct link is http://stophospitalinfections.org

#3 11-15-2005, 09:23 PM

Thank you Mark Bornfeld ! Thank you Steven Bornfeld !

Good question! Would you have any other ideas regarding that point or
related ideas?

At the Student Dental Clinic of Tufts University School of Dental
Medicine the instructing dentists move from one patient to another
patient and back and forth again not washing between patients.

- quote -

> Mark & Steven Bornfeld
> don warner saklad wrote:
>
> > a.
> > What are the infection rates, what are the statistics, where are the
> > reports available for the Student Dental Clinic at Tufts University
> > School of Dental Medicine
> > http://www.tufts.edu/dental/patient/index.html
> >
> > ?
> >
> > b.
> > What are the infection rates, what are the statistics, where are the
> > reports available for your favorite Dental Schools clinics?...
>
>
> Except for the exceptional cases like Kimberly Bergalis/David Acer, the
> occasional transmission of Hep B, and the pretty much theoretical
> transmission of legionella in contaminated water lines, what kind of
> infections are we talking about here?
> The problem is that on an out-patient basis, statistics on
> cross-infection are very hard to gather--where they are gathered at all.
> How do you suppose this could be done in a dental setting?
>
> Steve
> >
> > stoptheinfections.org advocates that information be made available
> > http://stophospitalinfections.org
> >
> > Health / Science
> > The Boston Globe
> >
> > WHITE COAT NOTES
> > Are health workers' hands clean? Go ahead and ask
> >
> > http://www.boston.com/news/globe/hea...ahead_and_ask/
> >
> > November 7, 2005
> > Doctors and nurses who fail to wash their hands at
> > Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center may hear about it from
> > their patients.
> >
> > The hospital is adopting an unusual method to improve hand
> > washing and cut down on dangerous infections among its
> > patients.
> >
> > Starting today, nurses will review the importance of hand
> > washing with all patients when they're admitted and tell them
> > they should question their health-care workers about whether
> > they've washed their hands before touching them.
> >
> > Staff will wear buttons declaring ''Go Ahead and Ask."
> >
> >
> > Beth Israel Deaconess executives said other hospitals that
> > involve patients have increased hand washing by 35 to 60
> > percent.
> >
> > Executives at the Harvard Medical School teaching hospital
> > will send empty soap and disinfectant containers to an
> > outside firm that will analyze how much soap is used during
> > specific time periods to determine if the program has
> > increased hand washing.
> >
> > The hospital warns health-care workers to prepare themselves
> > for questions.
> >
> > If a patient catches them with soiled hands, a hospital
> > power-point presentation recommends a non-defensive response:
> > ''Thank you for reminding me; I will do that now."
> > http://www.boston.com/news/globe/hea...ahead_and_ask/
> >
>
>
> --
> Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
> http://www.dentaltwins.com
> Brooklyn, NY
> 718-258-5001

#2 11-15-2005, 09:17 PM

The Webby wrote:

- quote -

> I spent a few days visiting my mother who is hospitalized now and the
> floor corridor has dispensers of antibacterial waterless lotion/soap
> outside of each room. In the patient bathrooms and public bathrooms,
> there is liquid soap intended to be used with running water.
>
> A patient in that ward wouldn't know if a nurse of doctor washed their
> hands with the lotion. There aren't any sinks in the patient's bed area
> of the rooms.
>
> TW

We've had patients who work for the city department of health as
restaurant inspectors. Some of them say that if I saw what they did I'd
never eat in a restaurant again.
Nosocomial infections have always been a big problem, and I don't doubt
that they are a problem in the dental setting as well. I just don't
know what could be done to actively police proper infection control
policies. Seems to me that even the most easily documented (such as
submission of autoclave spore tests) would be very difficult to accomplish.

Steve

- quote -

>
> In article <0Wsef.35457$Vb.18815[at]trndny05> ,
> Mark & Steven Bornfeld <bornfeldmung[at]dentaltwins.com> wrote:
>
>
> > don warner saklad wrote:
> >
> >
> > > a.
> > > What are the infection rates, what are the statistics, where are the
> > > reports available for the Student Dental Clinic at Tufts University
> > > School of Dental Medicine
> > > http://www.tufts.edu/dental/patient/index.html
> > >
> > > ?
> > >
> > > b.
> > > What are the infection rates, what are the statistics, where are the
> > > reports available for your favorite Dental Schools clinics?...
> >
> >
> > Except for the exceptional cases like Kimberly Bergalis/David Acer, the
> > occasional transmission of Hep B, and the pretty much theoretical
> > transmission of legionella in contaminated water lines, what kind of
> > infections are we talking about here?
> > The problem is that on an out-patient basis, statistics on
> > cross-infection are very hard to gather--where they are gathered at all.
> > How do you suppose this could be done in a dental setting?
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > > stoptheinfections.org advocates that information be made available
> > > http://stoptheinfections.org
> > >
> > > Health / Science
> > > The Boston Globe
> > >
> > > WHITE COAT NOTES
> > > Are health workers' hands clean? Go ahead and ask
> > >
> > > http://www.boston.com/news/globe/hea...11/07/are_heal
> > > th_workers_hands_clean_go_ahead_and_ask/
> > >
> > > November 7, 2005
> > > Doctors and nurses who fail to wash their hands at
> > > Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center may hear about it from
> > > their patients.
> > >
> > > The hospital is adopting an unusual method to improve hand
> > > washing and cut down on dangerous infections among its
> > > patients.
> > >
> > > Starting today, nurses will review the importance of hand
> > > washing with all patients when they're admitted and tell them
> > > they should question their health-care workers about whether
> > > they've washed their hands before touching them.
> > >
> > > Staff will wear buttons declaring ''Go Ahead and Ask."
> > >
> > >
> > > Beth Israel Deaconess executives said other hospitals that
> > > involve patients have increased hand washing by 35 to 60
> > > percent.
> > >
> > > Executives at the Harvard Medical School teaching hospital
> > > will send empty soap and disinfectant containers to an
> > > outside firm that will analyze how much soap is used during
> > > specific time periods to determine if the program has
> > > increased hand washing.
> > >
> > > The hospital warns health-care workers to prepare themselves
> > > for questions.
> > >
> > > If a patient catches them with soiled hands, a hospital
> > > power-point presentation recommends a non-defensive response:
> > > ''Thank you for reminding me; I will do that now."
> > > http://www.boston.com/news/globe/hea...11/07/are_heal
> > > th_workers_hands_clean_go_ahead_and_ask/
> > >

--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

#1 11-15-2005, 09:07 PM

I spent a few days visiting my mother who is hospitalized now and the
floor corridor has dispensers of antibacterial waterless lotion/soap
outside of each room. In the patient bathrooms and public bathrooms,
there is liquid soap intended to be used with running water.

A patient in that ward wouldn't know if a nurse of doctor washed their
hands with the lotion. There aren't any sinks in the patient's bed area
of the rooms.

TW

In article <0Wsef.35457$Vb.18815[at]trndny05> ,
Mark & Steven Bornfeld <bornfeldmung[at]dentaltwins.com> wrote:

- quote -

> don warner saklad wrote:
>
> > a.
> > What are the infection rates, what are the statistics, where are the
> > reports available for the Student Dental Clinic at Tufts University
> > School of Dental Medicine
> > http://www.tufts.edu/dental/patient/index.html
> >
> > ?
> >
> > b.
> > What are the infection rates, what are the statistics, where are the
> > reports available for your favorite Dental Schools clinics?...
>
>
> Except for the exceptional cases like Kimberly Bergalis/David Acer, the
> occasional transmission of Hep B, and the pretty much theoretical
> transmission of legionella in contaminated water lines, what kind of
> infections are we talking about here?
> The problem is that on an out-patient basis, statistics on
> cross-infection are very hard to gather--where they are gathered at all.
> How do you suppose this could be done in a dental setting?
>
> Steve
> >
> > stoptheinfections.org advocates that information be made available
> > http://stoptheinfections.org
> >
> > Health / Science
> > The Boston Globe
> >
> > WHITE COAT NOTES
> > Are health workers' hands clean? Go ahead and ask
> >
> > http://www.boston.com/news/globe/hea...11/07/are_heal
> > th_workers_hands_clean_go_ahead_and_ask/
> >
> > November 7, 2005
> > Doctors and nurses who fail to wash their hands at
> > Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center may hear about it from
> > their patients.
> >
> > The hospital is adopting an unusual method to improve hand
> > washing and cut down on dangerous infections among its
> > patients.
> >
> > Starting today, nurses will review the importance of hand
> > washing with all patients when they're admitted and tell them
> > they should question their health-care workers about whether
> > they've washed their hands before touching them.
> >
> > Staff will wear buttons declaring ''Go Ahead and Ask."
> >
> >
> > Beth Israel Deaconess executives said other hospitals that
> > involve patients have increased hand washing by 35 to 60
> > percent.
> >
> > Executives at the Harvard Medical School teaching hospital
> > will send empty soap and disinfectant containers to an
> > outside firm that will analyze how much soap is used during
> > specific time periods to determine if the program has
> > increased hand washing.
> >
> > The hospital warns health-care workers to prepare themselves
> > for questions.
> >
> > If a patient catches them with soiled hands, a hospital
> > power-point presentation recommends a non-defensive response:
> > ''Thank you for reminding me; I will do that now."
> > http://www.boston.com/news/globe/hea...11/07/are_heal
> > th_workers_hands_clean_go_ahead_and_ask/
> >

11-15-2005, 09:02 PM

don warner saklad wrote:

- quote -

> a.
> What are the infection rates, what are the statistics, where are the
> reports available for the Student Dental Clinic at Tufts University
> School of Dental Medicine
> http://www.tufts.edu/dental/patient/index.html
>
> ?
>
> b.
> What are the infection rates, what are the statistics, where are the
> reports available for your favorite Dental Schools clinics?...

Except for the exceptional cases like Kimberly Bergalis/David Acer, the
occasional transmission of Hep B, and the pretty much theoretical
transmission of legionella in contaminated water lines, what kind of
infections are we talking about here?
The problem is that on an out-patient basis, statistics on
cross-infection are very hard to gather--where they are gathered at all.
How do you suppose this could be done in a dental setting?

Steve
- quote -

>
> stoptheinfections.org advocates that information be made available
> http://stoptheinfections.org
>
> Health / Science
> The Boston Globe
>
> WHITE COAT NOTES
> Are health workers' hands clean? Go ahead and ask
>
> http://www.boston.com/news/globe/hea...ahead_and_ask/
>
> November 7, 2005
> Doctors and nurses who fail to wash their hands at
> Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center may hear about it from
> their patients.
>
> The hospital is adopting an unusual method to improve hand
> washing and cut down on dangerous infections among its
> patients.
>
> Starting today, nurses will review the importance of hand
> washing with all patients when they're admitted and tell them
> they should question their health-care workers about whether
> they've washed their hands before touching them.
>
> Staff will wear buttons declaring ''Go Ahead and Ask."
>
>
> Beth Israel Deaconess executives said other hospitals that
> involve patients have increased hand washing by 35 to 60
> percent.
>
> Executives at the Harvard Medical School teaching hospital
> will send empty soap and disinfectant containers to an
> outside firm that will analyze how much soap is used during
> specific time periods to determine if the program has
> increased hand washing.
>
> The hospital warns health-care workers to prepare themselves
> for questions.
>
> If a patient catches them with soiled hands, a hospital
> power-point presentation recommends a non-defensive response:
> ''Thank you for reminding me; I will do that now."
> http://www.boston.com/news/globe/hea...ahead_and_ask/
>

--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

#-1 11-15-2005, 08:26 PM

a.
What are the infection rates, what are the statistics, where are the
reports available for the Student Dental Clinic at Tufts University
School of Dental Medicine
http://www.tufts.edu/dental/patient/index.html

?

b.
What are the infection rates, what are the statistics, where are the
reports available for your favorite Dental Schools clinics?...

stoptheinfections.org advocates that information be made available
http://stoptheinfections.org

Health / Science
The Boston Globe

WHITE COAT NOTES
Are health workers' hands clean? Go ahead and ask

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/hea...ahead_and_ask/

November 7, 2005
Doctors and nurses who fail to wash their hands at
Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center may hear about it from
their patients.

The hospital is adopting an unusual method to improve hand
washing and cut down on dangerous infections among its
patients.

Starting today, nurses will review the importance of hand
washing with all patients when they're admitted and tell them
they should question their health-care workers about whether
they've washed their hands before touching them.

Staff will wear buttons declaring ''Go Ahead and Ask."

Beth Israel Deaconess executives said other hospitals that
involve patients have increased hand washing by 35 to 60
percent.

Executives at the Harvard Medical School teaching hospital
will send empty soap and disinfectant containers to an
outside firm that will analyze how much soap is used during
specific time periods to determine if the program has
increased hand washing.

The hospital warns health-care workers to prepare themselves
for questions.

If a patient catches them with soiled hands, a hospital
power-point presentation recommends a non-defensive response:
''Thank you for reminding me; I will do that now."
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/hea...ahead_and_ask/

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