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Old 02-04-2005, 05:46 AM
rwm@fambright.com
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Default Re: Imminent Danger of Worldwide Supplement Ban (CODEX) [was: Norway/German/CODEX


Paul Antonik Wakfer wrote:
- quote -

>
> (2) Oppose bills S.722 and H.R.3377. These support the CODEX
> restrictions with U.S. laws, changing the DSHEA law.
>
> (3) Support H.R.1146 which would restore the sovereignty of the U.S.
> Constitution over CODEX, etc.


While I oppose CODEX (as every sane, informed person does), I feel
obliged to point out that the highest bill number in the U.S. Senate is
currently S.144, while the highest bill number before the House of
Representatives is H.R.299. I could not find any bills that would
amend DSHEA.

  #282  
Old 02-04-2005, 03:36 AM
rs1000@techemail.com
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Default Re: Imminent Danger of Worldwide Supplement Ban (CODEX) [was: Norway/German/CODEX


Paul Antonik Wakfer wrote:

- quote -

> It is far, far worse than this small quote suggests, and most of
those
> on this group do not seem to understand how imminent it is HERE in

North
> America and *why* that is so. Here is the complete message from which


> the above is quoted. I urge everyone to read it in its entirety
> (including my comments at the end) and then to act STRONGLY and

IMMEDIATELY.
>
> ------------ Important message begins --------------
>
> Subject: Banning of the sales of Vitamins .. worldwide ...
>
> Read this very important health message below and contact everyone.
>
> Your right to choose your vitamin, mineral and other supplements may

end
> in June of this year (2005). After that U.S. supplements will be

defined
> and controlled by the World Trade Organization (WTO) and the World
> Health Organization (WHO). The CODEX ALIMENTARIUS (Food Code) is

setting
> the supplement standards for all countries in the WTO. They will be
> enforced by the WTO and will override U.S. laws.
> The U.S. President and
> Congress agreed to this take-over when the WTO Treaty was signed.


This information is incorrect.

"No provision of any of the Uruguay Round Agreements, nor the
application of any such provision to any person or circumstance, that
is inconsistent with any law of the United States shall have effect."
(19 U.S.C. §3512(a)(1)).

"Nothing in this Act shall be construed to amend or modify any law of
the United States, including any law relating to the protection of
human, animal or plant life or health." (19 U.S.C. §3512
(a)(2)(A)(i)).




- quote -

> Violations are punished by WTO trade sanctions. CODEX drastically
> restricts vitamins, minerals, herbs and other supplements. CODEX met
> secretly in November, 2004 and finalized "Step 8 (the final stage)"

to
> begin implementation in June, 2005.
>
> The CODE includes:
>
> (1) No supplement can be sold for preventive or therapeutic use.
>
> (2) Any potency higher than RDA (minimal strength) is a "drug"

requiring
> a prescription and must be produced by drug companies. Over 5000 safe


> items now in health stores will be banned, terminating health stores

as
> we now know them.
>
> (3) CODEX regulations become binding internationally.
>
> (4) New supplements are banned unless given very expensive CODEX

testing
> and approval.
>
> CODEX now applies to Norway and Germany, among others, where zinc
> tablets rose from $4 per bottle to $52. Echinacea (an ancient
> immune-enhancement herb) rose from $14 to $153 (both examples are now


> allowed by prescription only). They are now "drugs". Vitamin C above

200
> mg, niacin above 32 mg, vitamin B6 above 4 mg-all are banned
> over-the-counter as drugs. No amino acids (arginine, lysine,

carnitine,
> etc. = essential amino acids!), essential fatty acids (omegas 3, 6,

9,
> etc.), or other essential supplements such as DMEA, DHEA, CoQ10, MSM,
> beta-carotene, etc. are allowed.
>
> The CODEX rules are not based on real science. They are made by a few


> people meeting in secret (see web sites below), not necessarily
> scientists. In 1993 the FDA and drug corporations tried to put all
> supplements under restriction and prescription. But over 4 million
> Americans told Congress and the President to protect their freedom of


> choice on health supplements. The DSHEA Law was passed in 1994, which


> does so. But this will be overruled by CODEX and the World Trade
> Organization.
>
> Virtually nothing about it has been in the media. What the drug
> corporations have failed to do through Congress they have gotten by
> sneak attack through CODEX with the help of a silent media. What can

be
> done at this late hour?
>
> (1) Spread the word as much as possible. Inform yourselves fully at
>
> http://www.ahha.org, http://www.iahf.com, and
> http://www.alliance-natural-health.org .
>
> (2) Oppose bills S.722 and H.R.3377. These support the CODEX
> restrictions with U.S. laws, changing the DSHEA law.
>
> (3) Support H.R.1146 which would restore the sovereignty of the U.S.
> Constitution over CODEX, etc.
>
> (4) Express your wishes to the President, Senators and

Representatives
> (They got us into this!) ASAP.
>
> (5) Contact multi-level health marketing groups that can get their
> members to inform the government.
>
> (6) Send donations, however small, to the British Alliance for

Natural
> Health (see web site above). It has succeeded in challenging the

CODEX
> directives in World Court later this month or next. They need help
> financially, having carried the fight effectively for everyone. CODEX


> and the FDA wish to protect us by controlling supplements in the same


> way they do prescription drugs. A study of the latter by three

medical
> scientists was reported in the Journal of the American Medical
> Association, April 15, 1998-Vol. 279, No. 15, p. 1200 ".Incidence of
> Adverse Drug Reactions (ADR's) was found to be extremely high."
> Covering 30 years (1966 to 1996) it was found that in the U.S. an
> average of 106,000 hospitalized patients per year (290 per day)! die
> from ADR's and 2,200,000 need more hospitalization for recovery.

These
> were FDA approved drugs, properly administered by competent
> professionals in hospitals--none were considered malpractice. This is


> the number four cause of death in the U.S. When combined, these

account
> for 7% of all hospitalized patients. This is equivalent to a 9-11

attack
> every ten days. There are very few fatalities from supplements or the


> news would be on every front page. There is no need for more FDA

control
> of supplements than is already in place, which is substantial.

Instead
> of drastically restricting supplements, why doesn't the FDA better
> control and restrict the extremely dangerous pharmaceutical drugs

which
> are now killing us at the rate of a major airline crash per day?
>
> Wallace G. Heath, Ph.D.
>
> 1145 Marine Drive Bellingham, WA 98225
>
> -------------------------------
>
> Comment by Paul Wakfer:
>
> If this takes place, not only all supplement stores, but all

supplement
> suppliers will be out of business. All of us who are taking large

doses
> of supplements will have nothing left but food, caloric restriction

and
> exercise for disease prevention and life extension, plus those few
> things we will be able to buy "underground". However, just as with
> proscribed narcotic drugs, these underground sources will be

expensive,
> of questionable purity and many may even be operated by violent

criminal
> types. Is this the environment of fear and uncertainty within which

you
> want to purchase your supplements?
>
> While many readers of the MoreLife Yahoo group and the Morelife.org

and
> SelfSIP.org websites will realize that it is not normally my and

Kitty's
> method to have any "truck" with government as long as we can avoid

it,
> in this case we are fighting for our very lives! If CODEX is

implemented
> as designed and is adhered to by all major countries, then the entire


> supplement supply industry as it is currently practiced, particularly

in
> North America, will be instantly gone and our chance for a continued
> healthy existence into old age and beyond will be drastically reduced


> (practically to zero). This CODEX nonsense MUST BE STOPPED from

invading
> any more countries and I most strongly urge everyone to do whatever

s/he
> can to stop it from happening. This is not the time to shrug and say
> "someone else will stop it, why should I bother myself". If you wish

to
> have any chance to maximize your lifetime happiness, you must act

NOW.
>
>
> --Paul Wakfer
>
> MoreLife for the rational - http://morelife.org
> Reality based tools for more life in quantity and quality
> The Self-Sovereign Individual Project - http://selfsip.org
> Rational freedom by self-sovereignty & social contracting


  #281  
Old 02-04-2005, 01:35 AM
Mark Thorson
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Default Re: Imminent Danger of Worldwide Supplement Ban (CODEX) [was:Norway/German/CODEX

Rene wrote:

- quote -

> (Sorry about the top post)
> It is my understanding that we will no longer be able to grow our own herbs
> if they are not on the "approved list". Do you know anything about this?


Oh, it's worse than that! You won't even be able to possess
a food dehydrator because that can be used to concentrate
the nutrients in foods such as spinach! Florida orange growers
are complaining because frozen orange juice concentrate will
be illegal -- only 100% natural dilution levels will be allowed.
The only exemptions are certain dried fruits, such as raisens,
prunes, apricots, and sun-dried tomatoes. Also, meats will be
exempt, such as beef jerky. Hope this helps! :-)



  #280  
Old 02-04-2005, 01:30 AM
Rene
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Default Re: Imminent Danger of Worldwide Supplement Ban (CODEX) [was: Norway/German/CODEX

(Sorry about the top post)
It is my understanding that we will no longer be able to grow our own herbs
if they are not on the "approved list". Do you know anything about this?

René


"Paul Antonik Wakfer" <tom[at]morelife.org> wrote in message
news:_yxMd.5244$Nn1.2864[at]newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
- quote -

> Anth wrote:
>
> > Quote :-
> >
> > CODEX now applies to Norway and Germany, among others, where zinc tablets
> > rose from $4 per bottle to $52. Echinacea (an ancient immune-enhancement
> > herb) rose from $14 to $153 (both examples are now allowed by
> > prescription only). They are now "drugs". Vitamin C above 200 mg, niacin
> > above 32 mg, vitamin B6 above 4 mg-all are banned over-the-counter as
> > drugs. No amino acids (arginine, lysine, carnitine, etc. = essential
> > amino acids!), essential fatty acids (omegas 3, 6, 9, etc.), or other
> > essential supplements such as DMEA, DHEA, CoQ10, MSM, beta-carotene, etc.
> > are allowed.

>
> It is far, far worse than this small quote suggests, and most of those on
> this group do not seem to understand how imminent it is HERE in North
> America and *why* that is so. Here is the complete message from which the
> above is quoted. I urge everyone to read it in its entirety (including my
> comments at the end) and then to act STRONGLY and IMMEDIATELY.
>
> ------------ Important message begins --------------
>
> Subject: Banning of the sales of Vitamins .. worldwide ...
>
> Read this very important health message below and contact everyone.
>
> Your right to choose your vitamin, mineral and other supplements may end
> in June of this year (2005). After that U.S. supplements will be defined
> and controlled by the World Trade Organization (WTO) and the World Health
> Organization (WHO). The CODEX ALIMENTARIUS (Food Code) is setting the
> supplement standards for all countries in the WTO. They will be enforced
> by the WTO and will override U.S. laws. The U.S. President and Congress
> agreed to this take-over when the WTO Treaty was signed. Violations are
> punished by WTO trade sanctions. CODEX drastically restricts vitamins,
> minerals, herbs and other supplements. CODEX met secretly in November,
> 2004 and finalized "Step 8 (the final stage)" to begin implementation in
> June, 2005.
>
> The CODE includes:
>
> (1) No supplement can be sold for preventive or therapeutic use.
>
> (2) Any potency higher than RDA (minimal strength) is a "drug" requiring a
> prescription and must be produced by drug companies. Over 5000 safe items
> now in health stores will be banned, terminating health stores as we now
> know them.
>
> (3) CODEX regulations become binding internationally.
>
> (4) New supplements are banned unless given very expensive CODEX testing
> and approval.
>
> CODEX now applies to Norway and Germany, among others, where zinc tablets
> rose from $4 per bottle to $52. Echinacea (an ancient immune-enhancement
> herb) rose from $14 to $153 (both examples are now allowed by prescription
> only). They are now "drugs". Vitamin C above 200 mg, niacin above 32 mg,
> vitamin B6 above 4 mg-all are banned over-the-counter as drugs. No amino
> acids (arginine, lysine, carnitine, etc. = essential amino acids!),
> essential fatty acids (omegas 3, 6, 9, etc.), or other essential
> supplements such as DMEA, DHEA, CoQ10, MSM,
> beta-carotene, etc. are allowed.
>
> The CODEX rules are not based on real science. They are made by a few
> people meeting in secret (see web sites below), not necessarily
> scientists. In 1993 the FDA and drug corporations tried to put all
> supplements under restriction and prescription. But over 4 million
> Americans told Congress and the President to protect their freedom of
> choice on health supplements. The DSHEA Law was passed in 1994, which does
> so. But this will be overruled by CODEX and the World Trade Organization.
>
> Virtually nothing about it has been in the media. What the drug
> corporations have failed to do through Congress they have gotten by sneak
> attack through CODEX with the help of a silent media. What can be done at
> this late hour?
>
> (1) Spread the word as much as possible. Inform yourselves fully at
>
> http://www.ahha.org, http://www.iahf.com, and
> http://www.alliance-natural-health.org .
>
> (2) Oppose bills S.722 and H.R.3377. These support the CODEX restrictions
> with U.S. laws, changing the DSHEA law.
>
> (3) Support H.R.1146 which would restore the sovereignty of the U.S.
> Constitution over CODEX, etc.
>
> (4) Express your wishes to the President, Senators and Representatives
> (They got us into this!) ASAP.
>
> (5) Contact multi-level health marketing groups that can get their members
> to inform the government.
>
> (6) Send donations, however small, to the British Alliance for Natural
> Health (see web site above). It has succeeded in challenging the CODEX
> directives in World Court later this month or next. They need help
> financially, having carried the fight effectively for everyone. CODEX and
> the FDA wish to protect us by controlling supplements in the same way they
> do prescription drugs. A study of the latter by three medical scientists
> was reported in the Journal of the American Medical Association, April 15,
> 1998-Vol. 279, No. 15, p. 1200 ".Incidence of Adverse Drug Reactions
> (ADR's) was found to be extremely high."
> Covering 30 years (1966 to 1996) it was found that in the U.S. an average
> of 106,000 hospitalized patients per year (290 per day)! die from ADR's
> and 2,200,000 need more hospitalization for recovery. These were FDA
> approved drugs, properly administered by competent professionals in
> hospitals--none were considered malpractice. This is the number four cause
> of death in the U.S. When combined, these account for 7% of all
> hospitalized patients. This is equivalent to a 9-11 attack every ten days.
> There are very few fatalities from supplements or the news would be on
> every front page. There is no need for more FDA control of supplements
> than is already in place, which is substantial. Instead of drastically
> restricting supplements, why doesn't the FDA better control and restrict
> the extremely dangerous pharmaceutical drugs which are now killing us at
> the rate of a major airline crash per day?
>
> Wallace G. Heath, Ph.D.
>
> 1145 Marine Drive Bellingham, WA 98225
>
> -------------------------------
>
> Comment by Paul Wakfer:
>
> If this takes place, not only all supplement stores, but all supplement
> suppliers will be out of business. All of us who are taking large doses of
> supplements will have nothing left but food, caloric restriction and
> exercise for disease prevention and life extension, plus those few things
> we will be able to buy "underground". However, just as with proscribed
> narcotic drugs, these underground sources will be expensive, of
> questionable purity and many may even be operated by violent criminal
> types. Is this the environment of fear and uncertainty within which you
> want to purchase your supplements?
>
> While many readers of the MoreLife Yahoo group and the Morelife.org and
> SelfSIP.org websites will realize that it is not normally my and Kitty's
> method to have any "truck" with government as long as we can avoid it, in
> this case we are fighting for our very lives! If CODEX is implemented as
> designed and is adhered to by all major countries, then the entire
> supplement supply industry as it is currently practiced, particularly in
> North America, will be instantly gone and our chance for a continued
> healthy existence into old age and beyond will be drastically reduced
> (practically to zero). This CODEX nonsense MUST BE STOPPED from invading
> any more countries and I most strongly urge everyone to do whatever s/he
> can to stop it from happening. This is not the time to shrug and say
> "someone else will stop it, why should I bother myself". If you wish to
> have any chance to maximize your lifetime happiness, you must act NOW.
>
>
> --Paul Wakfer
>
> MoreLife for the rational - http://morelife.org
> Reality based tools for more life in quantity and quality
> The Self-Sovereign Individual Project - http://selfsip.org
> Rational freedom by self-sovereignty & social contracting



  #279  
Old 02-03-2005, 09:27 PM
Paul Antonik Wakfer
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Default Imminent Danger of Worldwide Supplement Ban (CODEX) [was: Norway/German/CODEX

Anth wrote:

- quote -

> Quote :-
>
> CODEX now applies to Norway and Germany, among others, where zinc tablets
> rose from $4 per bottle to $52. Echinacea (an ancient immune-enhancement
> herb) rose from $14 to $153 (both examples are now allowed by prescription
> only). They are now "drugs". Vitamin C above 200 mg, niacin above 32 mg,
> vitamin B6 above 4 mg-all are banned over-the-counter as drugs. No amino
> acids (arginine, lysine, carnitine, etc. = essential amino acids!),
> essential fatty acids (omegas 3, 6, 9, etc.), or other essential supplements
> such as DMEA, DHEA, CoQ10, MSM, beta-carotene, etc. are allowed.


It is far, far worse than this small quote suggests, and most of those
on this group do not seem to understand how imminent it is HERE in North
America and *why* that is so. Here is the complete message from which
the above is quoted. I urge everyone to read it in its entirety
(including my comments at the end) and then to act STRONGLY and IMMEDIATELY.

------------ Important message begins --------------

Subject: Banning of the sales of Vitamins .. worldwide ...

Read this very important health message below and contact everyone.

Your right to choose your vitamin, mineral and other supplements may end
in June of this year (2005). After that U.S. supplements will be defined
and controlled by the World Trade Organization (WTO) and the World
Health Organization (WHO). The CODEX ALIMENTARIUS (Food Code) is setting
the supplement standards for all countries in the WTO. They will be
enforced by the WTO and will override U.S. laws. The U.S. President and
Congress agreed to this take-over when the WTO Treaty was signed.
Violations are punished by WTO trade sanctions. CODEX drastically
restricts vitamins, minerals, herbs and other supplements. CODEX met
secretly in November, 2004 and finalized "Step 8 (the final stage)" to
begin implementation in June, 2005.

The CODE includes:

(1) No supplement can be sold for preventive or therapeutic use.

(2) Any potency higher than RDA (minimal strength) is a "drug" requiring
a prescription and must be produced by drug companies. Over 5000 safe
items now in health stores will be banned, terminating health stores as
we now know them.

(3) CODEX regulations become binding internationally.

(4) New supplements are banned unless given very expensive CODEX testing
and approval.

CODEX now applies to Norway and Germany, among others, where zinc
tablets rose from $4 per bottle to $52. Echinacea (an ancient
immune-enhancement herb) rose from $14 to $153 (both examples are now
allowed by prescription only). They are now "drugs". Vitamin C above 200
mg, niacin above 32 mg, vitamin B6 above 4 mg-all are banned
over-the-counter as drugs. No amino acids (arginine, lysine, carnitine,
etc. = essential amino acids!), essential fatty acids (omegas 3, 6, 9,
etc.), or other essential supplements such as DMEA, DHEA, CoQ10, MSM,
beta-carotene, etc. are allowed.

The CODEX rules are not based on real science. They are made by a few
people meeting in secret (see web sites below), not necessarily
scientists. In 1993 the FDA and drug corporations tried to put all
supplements under restriction and prescription. But over 4 million
Americans told Congress and the President to protect their freedom of
choice on health supplements. The DSHEA Law was passed in 1994, which
does so. But this will be overruled by CODEX and the World Trade
Organization.

Virtually nothing about it has been in the media. What the drug
corporations have failed to do through Congress they have gotten by
sneak attack through CODEX with the help of a silent media. What can be
done at this late hour?

(1) Spread the word as much as possible. Inform yourselves fully at

http://www.ahha.org, http://www.iahf.com, and
http://www.alliance-natural-health.org .

(2) Oppose bills S.722 and H.R.3377. These support the CODEX
restrictions with U.S. laws, changing the DSHEA law.

(3) Support H.R.1146 which would restore the sovereignty of the U.S.
Constitution over CODEX, etc.

(4) Express your wishes to the President, Senators and Representatives
(They got us into this!) ASAP.

(5) Contact multi-level health marketing groups that can get their
members to inform the government.

(6) Send donations, however small, to the British Alliance for Natural
Health (see web site above). It has succeeded in challenging the CODEX
directives in World Court later this month or next. They need help
financially, having carried the fight effectively for everyone. CODEX
and the FDA wish to protect us by controlling supplements in the same
way they do prescription drugs. A study of the latter by three medical
scientists was reported in the Journal of the American Medical
Association, April 15, 1998-Vol. 279, No. 15, p. 1200 ".Incidence of
Adverse Drug Reactions (ADR's) was found to be extremely high."
Covering 30 years (1966 to 1996) it was found that in the U.S. an
average of 106,000 hospitalized patients per year (290 per day)! die
from ADR's and 2,200,000 need more hospitalization for recovery. These
were FDA approved drugs, properly administered by competent
professionals in hospitals--none were considered malpractice. This is
the number four cause of death in the U.S. When combined, these account
for 7% of all hospitalized patients. This is equivalent to a 9-11 attack
every ten days. There are very few fatalities from supplements or the
news would be on every front page. There is no need for more FDA control
of supplements than is already in place, which is substantial. Instead
of drastically restricting supplements, why doesn't the FDA better
control and restrict the extremely dangerous pharmaceutical drugs which
are now killing us at the rate of a major airline crash per day?

Wallace G. Heath, Ph.D.

1145 Marine Drive Bellingham, WA 98225

-------------------------------

Comment by Paul Wakfer:

If this takes place, not only all supplement stores, but all supplement
suppliers will be out of business. All of us who are taking large doses
of supplements will have nothing left but food, caloric restriction and
exercise for disease prevention and life extension, plus those few
things we will be able to buy "underground". However, just as with
proscribed narcotic drugs, these underground sources will be expensive,
of questionable purity and many may even be operated by violent criminal
types. Is this the environment of fear and uncertainty within which you
want to purchase your supplements?

While many readers of the MoreLife Yahoo group and the Morelife.org and
SelfSIP.org websites will realize that it is not normally my and Kitty's
method to have any "truck" with government as long as we can avoid it,
in this case we are fighting for our very lives! If CODEX is implemented
as designed and is adhered to by all major countries, then the entire
supplement supply industry as it is currently practiced, particularly in
North America, will be instantly gone and our chance for a continued
healthy existence into old age and beyond will be drastically reduced
(practically to zero). This CODEX nonsense MUST BE STOPPED from invading
any more countries and I most strongly urge everyone to do whatever s/he
can to stop it from happening. This is not the time to shrug and say
"someone else will stop it, why should I bother myself". If you wish to
have any chance to maximize your lifetime happiness, you must act NOW.


--Paul Wakfer

MoreLife for the rational - http://morelife.org
Reality based tools for more life in quantity and quality
The Self-Sovereign Individual Project - http://selfsip.org
Rational freedom by self-sovereignty & social contracting
 

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