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| On Nov 9, 6:45 am, "t" <tool...[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > "Mark Thorson" <nos...[at]sonic.net> wrote in message
Here's a comment that someone else sent me today via email:> > news:4733B2AE.FD5AD63D[at]sonic.net... > > > t wrote: > > > > "Mark Thorson" <nos...[at]sonic.net> wrote in message > > > news:4733B090.4C61E9AA[at]sonic.net... > > > > Dave wrote: > > > > > > As usual, the normal Pharma Boy response, cluttering up the Usenet, > > > > > cross posted to other groups, etc. > > > > > Name-calling noted. That is your trademark when > > > > you can't provide a fact-based response to defend > > > > your "articles". > > > > > For example: > > > > > Take the recent case of curcumin, for which you wrote > > > > an "article" extolling its virtues. Did you leave out > > > > the information that it is an inhibitor of the two most > > > > important drug-metabolizing and drug-transporting enzymes > > > > (CYP3A4 and P-gp) because you were ignorant of that, or > > > > did you leave it out because you didn't want to hurt > > > > sales of curcumin-based supplements? Curcumin can > > > > increase the potency of drugs by retarding their > > > > transport out of the body and destruction in the liver. > > > > For drugs with a low therapeutic index (small difference > > > > between an effective dose and a lethal dose), this > > > > could have disasterous consequences. When I provide > > > > this information, you call that "trolling". > > > > > As another example, you recently posted an "article" > > > > on tocotrienols, which have the reverse effect. They > > > > activate the steroid and xenobiotic receptor (SXR) > > > > which increases the expression of CYP3A4, the main > > > > drug-metabolizing enzyme in the liver. Other SXR > > > > activators have been shown to cause diminished > > > > effectiveness of drugs, resulting in failure of > > > > contraceptive drugs to prevent pregnancy and failure > > > > of the anti-rejection drug cyclosporine to prevent > > > > organ rejection. Again, did you omit that information > > > > because you were ignorant of it, or did you omit that > > > > information because you were afraid it would hurt > > > Not everyone is a drug user like you. So it might not be a problem for > > > non-druggies. > > Drug induced rantings should be ignored. Thanks for your editorial about the sad plight of raw almonds. We need to develop some kind of action plan, like a lobbying group to get a raw food labeling law and the funding necessary to enforce it. I know I'm dreaming, because the government doesn't even allocate enough money to enforce the organic labeling law, as it is. I could go on and on about all of this, including the fact that so much of our produce is coming from overseas, where we can't know how its grown, and because of which it has lost most of its nutrients by the time we buy it (if we do). Not to mention that we don't know what treatments it's being subjected to in order to be allowed into the US, treatments that destroy its integrity. Is the only option for each of us to have an organic garden and be self-sufficient? And what about those of us who can't grow our own? Judy Pokras Editor/Founder RawFoodsNewsMagazine.com |
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| "Mark Thorson" <nospam[at]sonic.net> wrote in message news:4733B2AE.FD5AD63D[at]sonic.net... - quote - > t wrote: > > > > "Mark Thorson" <nospam[at]sonic.net> wrote in message > > news:4733B090.4C61E9AA[at]sonic.net... > > > Dave wrote: > > > > > > > > As usual, the normal Pharma Boy response, cluttering up the Usenet, > > > > cross posted to other groups, etc. > > > > > > Name-calling noted. That is your trademark when > > > you can't provide a fact-based response to defend > > > your "articles". > > > > > > For example: > > > > > > Take the recent case of curcumin, for which you wrote > > > an "article" extolling its virtues. Did you leave out > > > the information that it is an inhibitor of the two most > > > important drug-metabolizing and drug-transporting enzymes > > > (CYP3A4 and P-gp) because you were ignorant of that, or > > > did you leave it out because you didn't want to hurt > > > sales of curcumin-based supplements? Curcumin can > > > increase the potency of drugs by retarding their > > > transport out of the body and destruction in the liver. > > > For drugs with a low therapeutic index (small difference > > > between an effective dose and a lethal dose), this > > > could have disasterous consequences. When I provide > > > this information, you call that "trolling". > > > > > > As another example, you recently posted an "article" > > > on tocotrienols, which have the reverse effect. They > > > activate the steroid and xenobiotic receptor (SXR) > > > which increases the expression of CYP3A4, the main > > > drug-metabolizing enzyme in the liver. Other SXR > > > activators have been shown to cause diminished > > > effectiveness of drugs, resulting in failure of > > > contraceptive drugs to prevent pregnancy and failure > > > of the anti-rejection drug cyclosporine to prevent > > > organ rejection. Again, did you omit that information > > > because you were ignorant of it, or did you omit that > > > information because you were afraid it would hurt > > Not everyone is a drug user like you. So it might not be a problem for > > non-druggies. > Drug induced rantings should be ignored. |
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As I recall, you drink urine, therefore you should be safe.> "Mark Thorson" <nospam[at]sonic.net> wrote in message > news:4733B090.4C61E9AA[at]sonic.net... > > Dave wrote: > > > > > > As usual, the normal Pharma Boy response, cluttering up the Usenet, > > > cross posted to other groups, etc. > > > > Name-calling noted. That is your trademark when > > you can't provide a fact-based response to defend > > your "articles". > > > > For example: > > > > Take the recent case of curcumin, for which you wrote > > an "article" extolling its virtues. Did you leave out > > the information that it is an inhibitor of the two most > > important drug-metabolizing and drug-transporting enzymes > > (CYP3A4 and P-gp) because you were ignorant of that, or > > did you leave it out because you didn't want to hurt > > sales of curcumin-based supplements? Curcumin can > > increase the potency of drugs by retarding their > > transport out of the body and destruction in the liver. > > For drugs with a low therapeutic index (small difference > > between an effective dose and a lethal dose), this > > could have disasterous consequences. When I provide > > this information, you call that "trolling". > > > > As another example, you recently posted an "article" > > on tocotrienols, which have the reverse effect. They > > activate the steroid and xenobiotic receptor (SXR) > > which increases the expression of CYP3A4, the main > > drug-metabolizing enzyme in the liver. Other SXR > > activators have been shown to cause diminished > > effectiveness of drugs, resulting in failure of > > contraceptive drugs to prevent pregnancy and failure > > of the anti-rejection drug cyclosporine to prevent > > organ rejection. Again, did you omit that information > > because you were ignorant of it, or did you omit that > > information because you were afraid it would hurt > Not everyone is a drug user like you. So it might not be a problem for > non-druggies. |
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| "Mark Thorson" <nospam[at]sonic.net> wrote in message news:4733B090.4C61E9AA[at]sonic.net... - quote - > Dave wrote:
non-druggies.> > > > As usual, the normal Pharma Boy response, cluttering up the Usenet, > > cross posted to other groups, etc. > > Name-calling noted. That is your trademark when > you can't provide a fact-based response to defend > your "articles". > > For example: > > Take the recent case of curcumin, for which you wrote > an "article" extolling its virtues. Did you leave out > the information that it is an inhibitor of the two most > important drug-metabolizing and drug-transporting enzymes > (CYP3A4 and P-gp) because you were ignorant of that, or > did you leave it out because you didn't want to hurt > sales of curcumin-based supplements? Curcumin can > increase the potency of drugs by retarding their > transport out of the body and destruction in the liver. > For drugs with a low therapeutic index (small difference > between an effective dose and a lethal dose), this > could have disasterous consequences. When I provide > this information, you call that "trolling". > > As another example, you recently posted an "article" > on tocotrienols, which have the reverse effect. They > activate the steroid and xenobiotic receptor (SXR) > which increases the expression of CYP3A4, the main > drug-metabolizing enzyme in the liver. Other SXR > activators have been shown to cause diminished > effectiveness of drugs, resulting in failure of > contraceptive drugs to prevent pregnancy and failure > of the anti-rejection drug cyclosporine to prevent > organ rejection. Again, did you omit that information > because you were ignorant of it, or did you omit that > information because you were afraid it would hurt Not everyone is a drug user like you. So it might not be a problem for |
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| Dave wrote: - quote - >
Name-calling noted. That is your trademark when> As usual, the normal Pharma Boy response, cluttering up the Usenet, > cross posted to other groups, etc. you can't provide a fact-based response to defend your "articles". For example: Take the recent case of curcumin, for which you wrote an "article" extolling its virtues. Did you leave out the information that it is an inhibitor of the two most important drug-metabolizing and drug-transporting enzymes (CYP3A4 and P-gp) because you were ignorant of that, or did you leave it out because you didn't want to hurt sales of curcumin-based supplements? Curcumin can increase the potency of drugs by retarding their transport out of the body and destruction in the liver. For drugs with a low therapeutic index (small difference between an effective dose and a lethal dose), this could have disasterous consequences. When I provide this information, you call that "trolling". As another example, you recently posted an "article" on tocotrienols, which have the reverse effect. They activate the steroid and xenobiotic receptor (SXR) which increases the expression of CYP3A4, the main drug-metabolizing enzyme in the liver. Other SXR activators have been shown to cause diminished effectiveness of drugs, resulting in failure of contraceptive drugs to prevent pregnancy and failure of the anti-rejection drug cyclosporine to prevent organ rejection. Again, did you omit that information because you were ignorant of it, or did you omit that information because you were afraid it would hurt the sales of tocotrienols? Which is it, Dave? |
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| Dave wrote: - quote - >
Dr. Oz is not a reliable source of information.> Most of us who read and write about health subjects have touched on > the health benefits of almonds. It's a great food -- but one that > changes very dramatically, from good to bad, when heated. As Dr. Oz, > Oprah's favorite physician has said, they should not be roasted > because that can change the chemical composition of the almond oil, > making it unhealthy. He supports every unscientific idea in medicine, such as reflexology, aromatherapy, etc. See this for more information about this lunatic: http://www.randi.org/jr/021805a.html - quote - > Heating almonds also destroys other beneficial
What you don't mention and don't want to have mentioned> nutrients. For those who are on a raw food diet, > healthy almonds have been a staple. is the very good reason for treating the almonds. http://www.cdc.gov/enterics/publicat...Dechet2004.pdf An epidemic of salmonella was traced to eating raw almonds. The new safeguards ensure this will not happen again. - quote - > These kinds of "safe for human consumption" things always
Would you inhale a gas used as an oxidizer in> amaze me. Are you going to purposely ingest a component > of race car fuel? No way . . . the Saturn V booster rocket? Would you drink a solvent used to clean dirty laundry? Would you wash yourself with a penetration aid used for some insecticides? I have no problem breathing oxygen, drinking water, or washing with soap. Your "race car fuel" alarmism falls flat on its ugly face. Any argument which resorts to such intellectually dishonest rhetoric is obviously a false argument, and says more about the author than the subject matter. |
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