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| - quote - > > On Nov 10, 11:34 am, ironjustice <teamtan...[at]hotmail.com> wrote: it DOES suggest a vegetarian diet WILL .. inhibit .. IL-6.<< "Increasing alpha-linolenic acid intake results in an increase in eicosapentaenoic acid in plasma lipids" http://www.raysahelian.com/eicosapentaenoic.html How Eicosapentaenoic acid is made The main biological role of alpha-linolenic acid (18:3n-3) appears to be as a precursor for the synthesis of longer chain n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFA). Increasing alphaLNA intake for a period of weeks to months results in an increase in the proportion of eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA; 20:5n-3) in plasma lipids, in erythrocytes, leukocytes, platelets and in breast milk but there is no increase in docosahexaenoic acid (DHA; 22:6n-3), which may even decline in some pools at high alphaLNA intakes. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk - quote - > On Nov 10, 4:12 am, Piotr Kasztelowicz <pek...[at]am.torun.pl> wrote: > This can not directly suggest, that vegetarian diet will be effective > to block IL-6. << > > If a fatty acid has been shown to inhibit IL-6 and you ingest > NOTHING .. but .. that fatty acid .. then it wouldn't be too much of a > stretch to .. assume .. that it DOES suggest a vegetarian diet WILL .. > inhibit .. IL-6. > > Kinda .. logical .. > > Who loves ya. > Tom > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > > On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, ironjustice wrote: > > > It inhibits IL-6 .. which seems to also .. **trigger** ... MS. > > > This can not directly suggest, that vegetarian diet will be > > effective to block IL-6. This is rather reason to think, > > to project trials with monoclonal IL-6-antybodies as > > possible treatment option, but from experimental trial > > to clinical use is very long way. > > > P. > > -- > > Piotr Kasztelowicz Piotr.Kasztelow...[at]am.torun.plhttp://www.am.torun.pl/~pekaszhttp://www.am.torun.plhttp://medycyna-i... > > PGP Key IDs: DH/DSS:0xF3EED8AF- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - |
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| On Nov 10, 4:12 am, Piotr Kasztelowicz <pek...[at]am.torun.pl> wrote: This can not directly suggest, that vegetarian diet will be effective to block IL-6. << If a fatty acid has been shown to inhibit IL-6 and you ingest NOTHING .. but .. that fatty acid .. then it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to .. assume .. that it DOES suggest a vegetarian diet WILL .. inhibit .. IL-6. Kinda .. logical .. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk - quote - > On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, ironjustice wrote: > > It inhibits IL-6 .. which seems to also .. **trigger** ... MS. > > This can not directly suggest, that vegetarian diet will be > effective to block IL-6. This is rather reason to think, > to project trials with monoclonal IL-6-antybodies as > possible treatment option, but from experimental trial > to clinical use is very long way. > > P. > -- > Piotr Kasztelowicz Piotr.Kasztelow...[at]am.torun.plhttp://www.am.torun.pl/~pekaszhttp://www.am.torun.plhttp://medycyna-i-filozofia.blog.onet.pl/ > PGP Key IDs: DH/DSS:0xF3EED8AF |
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| On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, ironjustice wrote: - quote - > It inhibits IL-6 .. which seems to also .. **trigger** ... MS.
This can not directly suggest, that vegetarian diet will beeffective to block IL-6. This is rather reason to think, to project trials with monoclonal IL-6-antybodies as possible treatment option, but from experimental trial to clinical use is very long way. P. -- Piotr Kasztelowicz Piotr.Kasztelowicz[at]am.torun.pl http://www.am.torun.pl/~pekasz http://www.am.torun.pl http://medycyna-i-filozofia.blog.onet.pl/ PGP Key IDs: DH/DSS:0xF3EED8AF |
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| On Nov 9, 6:50 am, ironjustice <ironjust...[at]cashette.com> wrote: - quote - > Sesamin (a non-fat portion of sesame seed oil) inhibits delta-5
Inhibiting the delta-5 desaturase would also inhibit the synthesis of> desaturase activity resulting in an accumulation of dihomo-gamma- > linolenic acid (DGLA) which can displace arachidonic acid (AA) and > decrease the formation of pro-inflammatory mediators. Mead acid in those "blessed" with it. Not a good idea even in the case of AA given that the people are not overloaded with it. Taka |
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| On Nov 9, 9:17 am, ironjustice <ironjust...[at]cashette.com> wrote: - quote - > On Nov 8, 3:41 pm, monty1...[at]lycos.com wrote:
Chinese cuisine uses a lot of oil ... which is these days mostly the> A study you once cited on "iron overloaded" Asians who didn't have the > iron-related > diseases that were thought to occur at those levels was a clear > indication that dietary iron > is not the most important factor. > << > > Now I wonder where they would get the idea there was no iron-related > diseases when one out of two Asians in China over forty have > osteoarthritis .. > > Who loves ya. > Tom > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk refined unsaturated or trans-fat containing suff ... Taka |
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| On Nov 8, 3:41 pm, monty1...[at]lycos.com wrote: A study you once cited on "iron overloaded" Asians who didn't have the iron-related diseases that were thought to occur at those levels was a clear indication that dietary iron is not the most important factor. << Now I wonder where they would get the idea there was no iron-related diseases when one out of two Asians in China over forty have osteoarthritis .. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk |
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| "...extensive lipid peroxidation (LP) was detected..." This seems to be the underlying cause or at least a major factor in the majority of "diseases" in "civilized societies" today. It is an easy hypothesis to test, but because saturated fatty acids are considered "bad," the experiments are not conducted. I determined that the molecular-level evidence couldn't be any clearer, and so have eaten a diet much richer in SFAs (relative to UFAs), in terms of overall calories consumed, for about 6 years now. I've only experienced benefits from this diet. You seem to think that SFAs are tied to animal products whereas UFAs are tied to vegetable ones, though this is couldn't be further from the truth. All naturally- occurring fat sources have at least some SFAs and some PUFAs. In biology, what matters is whether or not a threshold is reached. A chemist named Ottoboni wrote a book called something like, "It's the Does that Makes the Poison," and this is true for dietary intakes. I agree that most Westerners are consuming too much iron, but it's the lipid peroxidation that makes this really dangerous. A study you once cited on "iron overloaded" Asians who didn't have the iron-related diseases that were thought to occur at those levels was a clear indication that dietary iron is not the most important factor. |
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| "n-3 PUFA beneficial effects on several demyelinating diseases" J Neurosci Res. 2007 Oct 16; [Epub ahead of print] Links Eicosapentaenoic acid stimulates the expression of myelin proteins in rat brain. Salvati S, Natali F, Attorri L, Di Benedetto R, Leonardi F, Di Biase A, Ferri F, Fortuna S, Lorenzini P, Sanchez M, Ricceri L, Vitelli L. Department of Food, Nutrition and Health, Istituto Superiore di Sanità, Rome, Italy. We have previously demonstrated that, in C6 glioma cells, eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) stimulates the expression of proteolipid protein (PLP) via cAMP-mediated pathways. In this study, we investigated whether n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids can affect myelinogenesis in vivo. A single dose of either EPA or docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) was injected intracerebroventricularly into 2-day-old rats, which were then killed after 3 days post-injection (p.i.). Total RNA was isolated from the medulla, cerebellum, and cortex, and the expression of myelin-specific mRNAs was analyzed by real-time PCR. The levels of PLP, myelin basic protein, and myelin oligodendrocyte protein mRNAs increased in nearly all brain regions of DHA- and EPA- treated animals, but the effect was more pronounced in EPA-treated rats. The enhancement in PLP transcript levels was followed by an increase in PLP translation in EPA-treated rats. A further indicator of accelerated myelination was the increase in 2'-3'-cyclic nucleotide 3'-phosphodiesterase (CNPase) protein levels. In EPA-treated rats, the increased expression of myelin genes coincided with a decrease of cAMP- response element-binding protein (CREB)-DNA binding in the cerebellum and cortex (1 hr p.i.). After 16 hr, this effect was still present in the same cerebral regions even though the decrease in EPA-treated rats was less pronounced than in controls. The down-regulation of CREB activity was due to a decrease in the levels of CREB phosphorylation. In conclusion, our data suggest that EPA stimulates the expression of specific myelin proteins through decreased CREB phosphorylation. These results corroborate the clinical studies of the n-3 PUFA beneficial effects on several demyelinating diseases. (c) 2007 Wiley-Liss, Inc. PMID: 17941053 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher] ------------------------ "The long-chain omega-3 fatty acid eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) is derived from alpha-linolenic acid, a shorter-chain member of the same family." That means it comes from lecithin which is found in a vegetarian diet at a high rate .. in fact it pretty much ALL that IS found in the vegetarian diet. Different fatty acid intakes results IN .. different fatty acid .. contents. It inhibits IL-6 .. which seems to also .. **trigger** ... MS. "Can displace arachidonic acid" "The omega-3 fatty acids inhibit the conversion of linoleic acid to arachidonic acid, thereby reducing the biosynthesis of arachidonic acid and its eicosanoids" "Up to 80% of the fatty acids in leafy green plants is in the form of Alpha-linolenic Acid" Prostaglandins Leukot Essent Fatty Acids. 1998 Mar;58(3):185-91. Links Dietary alpha-linolenic acid increases TNF-alpha, and decreases IL-6, IL-10 in response to LPS: effects of sesamin on the delta-5 desaturation of omega6 and omega3 fatty acids in mice. Chavali SR, Zhong WW, Forse RA. Department of Surgery, Harvard Institute of Medicine, Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center and Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA 02215, USA. Sesamin (a non-fat portion of sesame seed oil) inhibits delta-5 desaturase activity resulting in an accumulation of dihomo-gamma- linolenic acid (DGLA) which can displace arachidonic acid (AA) and decrease the formation of pro-inflammatory mediators. We investigated the effects of consumption of diets containing 0.25wt% sesamin and 15 wt% safflower oil (SO) (providing 12% of the added fat as linoleic acid) or a 15 wt% 2:1 mixture of linseed oil and SO (LOSO) (providing 6% alpha-linolenic acid and 6% linoleic acid) for 3 weeks on the liver membrane fatty acid composition and on the production of prostaglandin (PG) E2, TNF-alpha, IL-6 and IL10 in mice. Consumption of sesamin- supplemented SO and LOSO diets resulted in a significant increase in the levels of 20:3omega6 (DGLA), suggesting that sesamin inhibited delta-5 desaturation of omega6 fatty acids. In animals fed LOSO diets, the levels of alpha-linolenic acid, eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and of docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) were elevated with a concomitant decrease of arachidonic acid (AA) in the liver membrane phospholipids. Further, in animals fed LOSO diets with or without sesamin, an increase in the circulating levels of TNF-alpha was associated with a concomitant decrease in PGE2. Despite a lack of differences in the levels of AA, the PGE2 levels were significantly lower in mice fed sesamin- supplemented SO compared to those fed SO alone. Thus, these data suggest that irrespective of the availability of a specific fatty acid as a substrate, through regulating the PGE2 synthesis, the production of TNF-alpha could be modulated. PMID: 9610840 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] - Molecule May Drive Multiple Sclerosis-Linked Disorder Discovery could lead to treatments for transverse myelitis and MS WEDNESDAY, Oct. 12 (HealthDay News) -- Researchers report that a single molecule called IL-6 is the cause of transverse myelitis (TM), an autoimmune disease in the central nervous system that's related to multiple sclerosis. The study found that levels of IL-6 are dramatically elevated in the spinal fluid of people with TM. The finding may help in the development of treatments for both TM and multiple sclerosis. "This is the first time a single culprit has been identified as causing a CNS (central nervous system) autoimmune disease," researcher Dr. Adam Kaplin, a psychiatrist and assistant professor of medicine at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, said in a prepared statement. IL-6 is a chemical messenger that immune system cells use to communicate with each other. Most TM patients suffer a single attack, but 15 percent to 30 percent of TM patients go on to develop full- blown multiple sclerosis. TM usually results in permanent impairment, including leg and arm weakness, bowel and bladder dysfunction, pain and paralysis. The researchers decided to investigate IL-6 because TM patients suffer from memory impairment and depression. Previous research implicated IL-6 in mood and concentration disorders. The study appears in the October issue of the Journal of Clinical Investigation. More information The U.S. National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke has more about transverse myelitis. -- Robert Preidt SOURCE: Johns Hopkins Medicine, news release, news release, Sept. 22, 2005 Last Updated: Oct. 12, 2005 Copyright © 2005 ScoutNews LLC. All rights reserved - <<snip> > IL6-induced BBB defect precipitates iron accumulation <<snip> > J Neuropathol Exp Neurol. 1998 Mar;57(3):268-82. Related Articles, Links Abnormal iron deposition associated with lipid peroxidation in transgenic mice expressing interleukin-6 in the brain. Castelnau PA, Garrett RS, Palinski W, Witztum JL, Campbell IL, Powell HC. Department of Pathology (Neuropathology), School of Medicine, University of California San Diego and the Veterans Affairs Research Service, La Jolla 92093-0612, USA. Transgenic mice, named GFAP-IL6, that express interleukin-6 in astrocytes in the central nervous system (CNS) have a constitutive blood-brain barrier (BBB) defect and develop a progressive neurodegenerative disease. Based on ultrastructural observations showing electron-dense pigment in the brain of the GFAP-IL6 mice, we hypothesized that iron metabolism was altered in the brains of these animals. Enhanced histochemical methods revealed abnormal iron deposition in the cerebellum from 1 month of age that worsened with progression of the disease. Immunohistochemical analysis of iron-binding proteins (IBP) showed increased ferritin immunoreactivity and a decreased signal from the transferrin receptor in symptomatic animals. Atomic absorption spectroscopy revealed a 40% increase of total iron concentration in the cerebellum at the symptomatic stage. In order to obtain evidence that accumulation of this oxidizing metal was toxic, we looked for the presence of oxidative damage. Using the MAL-2 antibody, extensive lipid peroxidation (LP) was detected in the neocortex and the cerebellum in symptomatic animals. Ultrastructural analysis indicated lipofuscin deposition at the sites of neuro-axonal degeneration and abnormal iron deposition. These results suggest that the IL6-induced BBB defect precipitates iron accumulation in the GFAP-IL6 mouse brain and that subsequent IBP regulation mediates protective responses. As these defenses become overwhelmed, the iron overload seems to promote LP, which may contribute to the neurodegeneration that ensues. This transgenic mouse model of IL6-mediated neurodegeneration provides a unique opportunity to examine several aspects of iron metabolism in the brain, including its entry at the site of the BBB, its distribution through the IBP, and its mechanisms of toxicity. PMID: 9600219 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*----- http://www.flaxhealth.com/foodsources.htm Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk |
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